Guess the work experience.

[Endrik]

Guess how many years the author of this work had been consciously practicing art when he made this




Guess how many years the author of this work had been consciously practicing art when he made this

[Twitch]

More years then I have been, call me uncultured but Im not sure I understand the exercise.

[Spivonious]

The first one is probably a long time, since it appears very simple.

The second one is probably some art school assignment for a still life. It's better than I could paint/draw, but it doesn't have any discernible meaning. (imo)

[Rsmacker]

The top one looks like it has been done by a 10 year old Window-licker, the other one probably been done by a serial killer. Or Bubbles the Chimp.

[Grandturk]

I only get a red x for the top one, and since the interwebz is like, a bazzillion years old - I guess that.

[Endrik]

The first one is probably a long time, since it appears very simple.

The second one is probably some art school assignment for a still life. It's better than I could paint/draw, but it doesn't have any discernible meaning. (imo)

Pretty much. Both are made by Henri Matisse. The first one (a paper cutout) with 58 years of practice the second one was his very first oil painting, only one year of practice. The first one and many other his late or middle period works were incredibly influential. Not only to painters but to all kinds of persons who have affected our world strongly... textile industry, fashion, book illustration, logo design, digital visual design, interior design, toys, cartoons, posters etc. specially the people who work with colours as Matisse brought intense saturated colours to the masses. That nice still life oil paint doesn't have much importance at all.

The reason i asked this is because I had a conversation with someone a few days ago who said that "Picasso couldn't really paint that's why he vomited on the paper, anyone can do it". But in reality Picasso could paint anything, he just chose the new way as doing the "old thing" wouldn't have had any importance. The same goes for a very skilled professional musician who has developed his/her style, just because he/she doesn't do 16th runs up and down all the down, doesn't mean he/she can't.

[atomic charvel guy]

if there was anyone who vomited on paper it was jackson Pollack, i never understood the craze about his work during his time.

[Endrik]

if there was anyone who vomited on paper it was jackson Pollack, i never understood the craze about his work during his time.

According to some conspiracy folks Jackson Pollock was hired by US government to weaken the values of USSR. Big totalitarian regimes (most notably Nazi Germany and USSR) didn't tolerate any form of avant-garde... like jazz music or abstract painting. So according to conspiracy theorists the US government heavily promoted Pollock to make him as one of the leading artists in the world.

If it's true hardly matters, 5 years ago David Geffen sold one of his Pollock paintings for 140 million dollars!

[atomic charvel guy]

i could do my own Atomic Pollock for 5.00 and the cost of the fuckin' paint and the canvas.

[Grandturk]

I enjoy a lot of modern art. The company I work for has a huge collection and displays some of it in our office - some are only prints of art they own, others the real deal. I used to look at modern art in the same manner - "this is just scribbles" - then I stopped caring and just enjoy it for what it is and what it makes me think about.

Its that whole Slayer guitar solo thing - there just garbled notes and fast picking and whammy dives... sure... sure...

[Rsmacker]

if there was anyone who vomited on paper it was jackson Pollack, i never understood the craze about his work during his time.

I've vomited on my chip paper more than once on my way home from the pub. Sometimes I even get out of the chip shop first.

The only painters I'm interested in are ones who use emulsion. Oh, and arty chicks who dangle their knockers in paint and then squirm around on massive canvasses (or is that just something I have imagined? Wilksy Baby, get your moobs out, we're making modern art this weekend.)

[Endrik]

i could do my own Atomic Pollock for 5.00 and the cost of the fuckin' paint and the canvas.

Paints are not cheap but you can try ejaculating on a dark paper

[Endrik]

I enjoy a lot of modern art. The company I work for has a huge collection and displays some of it in our office - some are only prints of art they own, others the real deal. I used to look at modern art in the same manner - "this is just scribbles" - then I stopped caring and just enjoy it for what it is and what it makes me think about.

Its that whole Slayer guitar solo thing - there just garbled notes and fast picking and whammy dives... sure... sure...

Yep, at the end it's all colours and composition. No matter what's portrayed or what the artist tries to tell us, different colour combinations affect us differently. I love Caravaggio's detail and use of light and shadows but that doesn't mean I can't enjoy abstract flow of bright colours, it can have such energy and character.

Since I started with Matisse... it's obvious that his first paining is more dark Dutch/Flemish style but he had bad health through his life so he started looking something which would bring joy to him and other people so he started using simple details and pretty colours.

[Twitch]

But in reality Picasso could paint anything, he just chose the new way as doing the "old thing" wouldn't have had any importance. The same goes for a very skilled professional musician who has developed his/her style, just because he/she doesn't do 16th runs up and down all the down, doesn't mean he/she can't.

Kind of like Tom Morrelo, a lot of people bag on him as a noise maker, BUT he can shred, he just doesnt do it for a living and so its not what hes famous for and so is disregarded as the great player he actually is.

[VitaminG]

Kind of like Tom Morrelo, a lot of people bag on him as a noise maker, BUT he can shred, he just doesnt do it for a living and so its not what hes famous for and so is disregarded as the great player he actually is.

Same with Vernon Reid. He can play very conventionally and do it exceptionally well. But he prefers to be more experimental and flies by the seat of his pants on stage. When it comes off, it is sublime. When it doesn't, it can be catastrophic. But he is fearless and lets it all hang out there on stage.

I was waxing about Picasso in the lunchroom yesterday, about folks who say his modern art looks like the scribblings of a child. I'm not a fan of the Cubists at all, but if you check out Picasso's early works, the guy had all the painting chops. If he wanted to do still lifes, portraits, landscapes or whatever, he was completely capable. Certainly much more capable than many artists who focus on those styles. But he eschewed convential painting and went in a more avant garde direction.