What if I told you I could cure neck dive with no guitar mods?

[wilkinsi]

Heh. There are no neckdive issues with Warriors

[MakeAJazzNoiseHere]

A suede-back strap works pretty well.

[tonemonster]

I can solve the neck dive problem. just keep your hand on the neck, it wont dive.

there.

problem solved.

what do you want me to fix next? the national debt? your neighbor's loud car? your aunt's lawnmower? the health care system? social security?

[wilkinsi]

You can start by stopping VAT and import duty

[VitaminG]

I can solve the neck dive problem. just keep your hand on the neck, it wont dive.

there.

problem solved.

sure, it sounds easy. But what are you going to do during the clap-along sections at a show?

[wilkinsi]

Clap the neck

[tonemonster]

sure, it sounds easy. But what are you going to do during the clap-along sections at a show?

thats only for girly man bands. some hannah montana wannabee justin beaver concert.

[Twitch]

Ehh, well most people try to avoid the clap, to each his own I guess.

[Newc]

Grippy-backed straps do not address the design flaw, they only address the symptom. The guitar still wants to dive, but instead of diving, the grippy strap pulls against your shoulder. I guess if you don't play out or only do 10-minute "shows", it's not a problem, but when you're doing 4-hour sets, the pain in your shoulder is a pain in the ass.

The guitar should sit wherever you put it, period. If you want it tilted up in Classical position or pointed down, it should stay there when you take your hands off the guitar. All by itself, through proper design, not with a grippy strap or by standing on the cable.

[Michael Scarn]

I agree, except I used to have a friedman kelly that I absolutely loved.

i didn't care about the neckdive. that bitch was so gorgeous, and played like str8 butter. miss it.

[MakeAJazzNoiseHere]

The grippy strap is fine for hours and hours so long as you don't have girly little shoulders that are crushed by a 10-pound guitar.

[VitaminG]

Grippy-backed straps do not address the design flaw, they only address the symptom. The guitar still wants to dive, but instead of diving, the grippy strap pulls against your shoulder. I guess if you don't play out or only do 10-minute "shows", it's not a problem, but when you're doing 4-hour sets, the pain in your shoulder is a pain in the ass.

I could see that being a real pain, if you are standing there for 4 hours with neither hand on the guitar. But if you're going to do that, you might as well put down the guitar and pickup a tamborine instead.

You guys must have some serious neck dive issues if a grippy strap is torquing your shoulder that much. The worst that I experience is on my Kelly, and it's hardly crashing to the floor - more that it wants to level out, with the neck parallel to the floor. It's only a problem should the left hand be removed from the neck, and can be counteracted by the right forearm resting on the body.

So to address this serious neck dive issue that's creating such an owie in your shoulder, you load up your guitar or strap with more weight to counteract the instrument's desire to dive? Won't that create greater pains over a 4 hour set? Especially if your 10lb neck diver now weighs 14lb?

The guitar should sit wherever you put it, period. If you want it tilted up in Classical position or pointed down, it should stay there when you take your hands off the guitar. All by itself, through proper design, not with a grippy strap or by standing on the cable.

We've all seen some of those "properly" designed guitars over the years. Basses with super-extended upper horns, weird amoebic blobs, "revolutionary" shapes that address a relatively minor problem at the expense of aesthetics, that didn't last because looks outweigh better balance to most guitarists.

You're always pushing a no-black-guitars agenda, because they can't be seen on stage. That might be desireable when we all start playing well-balanced abortions

[MakeAJazzNoiseHere]

I could see that being a real pain, if you are standing there for 4 hours with neither hand on the guitar. But if you're going to do that, you might as well put down the guitar and pickup a tamborine instead.

You guys must have some serious neck dive issues if a grippy strap is torquing your shoulder that much. The worst that I experience is on my Kelly, and it's hardly crashing to the floor - more that it wants to level out, with the neck parallel to the floor. It's only a problem should the left hand be removed from the neck, and can be counteracted by the right forearm resting on the body.

So to address this serious neck dive issue that's creating such an owie in your shoulder, you load up your guitar or strap with more weight to counteract the instrument's desire to dive? Won't that create greater pains over a 4 hour set? Especially if your 10lb neck diver now weighs 14lb?



We've all seen some of those "properly" designed guitars over the years. Basses with super-extended upper horns, weird amoebic blobs, "revolutionary" shapes that address a relatively minor problem at the expense of aesthetics, that didn't last because looks outweigh better balance to most guitarists.

You're always pushing a no-black-guitars agenda, because they can't be seen on stage. That might be desireable when we all start playing well-balanced abortions

Just put the strap button at the 12th fret! :idea:

[tonemonster]

I could see that being a real pain, if you are standing there for 4 hours with neither hand on the guitar.

4 hours? what are you talking about? sound check for cinderella??

[Ward]

4 hours? what are you talking about? sound check for cinderella??