real talk, how good are the tax breaks for being married?

[Michael Scarn]

otherwise I don't see the point really?


my old lady is bugging about that, but I'm not really trying to go there. It's not that I won't commit to her, but I'd rather be free to bounce when I get sick of her cunt ass without her taking half my shit.

I don't see why we can't just live together and shit out some kids. Tax breaks would have to be really amazing, especially since a hefty portion of my income is not taxed anyway.

input?

[horns666]

Well, with that said it's best to keep things as is. If you were married with kids..it' cheaper to keep her.

Never mind the baby momma drama, and try not to have any love trophies!! But kids are worth about 3k a pop..so if you pop out a few dozen..that'll be good.

I'll be married 24 years on the 14th. But to your original question, just have whoever does your taxes play with the numbers to BOTH your best interest. Ahhh..ya see, THAT sounds like a horrible trade-off for a few extra bucks. It doesn't even look good in print on a guitar forum!

But we always end up filing joint every year..so I guess that's best for US!..

[guitarsjb]

I'm guessing this is an attempt at humor.

[horns666]

I was thinking the same.

Wassup Sis..how ya doin'. Say hello if you get a chance @ Fuggems..

[Michael Scarn]

i'm being dead serious

[Ward]

There are a lot of variables involved. It would be hard to give you an answer that is worth anything because it varies depending on your income (especially if a portion of it is under the table), her income, if both of you itemize deductions or take the standard deduction and if that would change for either of you with filing married, would either of you change tax brackets, etc.

Bill's advice is good. If you have a tax guy, ask him (or her). If not, you could spend $50 and buy one of those personal tax software programs. H&R Block makes one that I use, but there are plenty out there somewhat cheap. It is really useful because you can enter all your info filing single, then try it as married and see what the difference is.

[emperor_black]

Take a look at this calculator. Like Ward said, your tax situation might be different, but a basic calculation for $50K annual income shows a difference of almost $3K between filing single vs filing married filing jointly.

http://www.dinkytown.net/java/TaxMargin.html

[ginsambo]

I don't want to put a downer on things, but remember if you cheat and she uses it to divorce you, then she gets everything. If she cheats and divorces you because, then she'll say that obviously it was your fault she was 'Forced' to cheat in the first place and she'll get everything. In fact if you ever spilt you'll have to perform miracles just to keep your guitars or even the clothes on your back.

In the meantime, you are issuing her with an official licence to govern over your life and tell you to do exactly as you are told and how she can direct ALL the finances, without your consent. Its like a buy now pay later situation, or high interest loan, looks good on the face of it, but I think you have to seriously look at your rights in the longer term, compared to your short term gains. Everyone thinks they know their partner back to back, but in reality you never, ever really know how they are going to react if there are six of you shipwrecked out at sea and there is only enough room for 5 on the lifeboat. But then if I had any doubts, I wouldn't get married or have kids in the first place...as nothing is ever set in stone.

Well at least this is the case in the UK, where women rule with an iron fist and men don't have any paternity or financial rights when it comes to marriage breakdowns on the whole. Of course there are plenty of decent women who have been ripped but on the whole....

Remember kids! Don't be a sperm donor!

Marriage should be a two way street, if you don't wanna do it, then don't sign your life away. I doubt she will ever understand this by the sounds of it though. I would be seriously analytical of her motivations, if she already 100% depends on you already for emotional, social or financial support and she has no motivation in her own life to acheive her own goals and ambitions, excluding baby farming, then I would be skeptical.

[wantedrr]

Dont do it


1- Marriage is retarded and ruins perfectly good relationships

2- The money you save from taxes is negligible when you consider the all the expenses of supporting a wives and kids.



Cliffs: Don't do it.

[LouSiffer]

On a serious note: Getting married cost me more money.

On a even more serious note: Get your fucking nuts cut and have an attorney draw up a document that you sign and have submitted to the court that would never allow you to get married. Seriously, marriage and kids are fucking miserable. You will never have anything nice due to the fact that if you have kids, you cant afford it. If you can afford it, they either tear it up or you dont have time to enjoy it as the bitch or the little bastards demand all of your time and attention.

You have no fucking clue how many times i will be in my car thinking " I should just hold the gas pedal the floor and then drive this fucker right into that fuel tanker" . . . This is not a joke. I drive an hour and a half to work every day and i pass several of these a day.

Your next response would be for me to leave if i am that miserable. Checked into it. Talked to my attorney and she advised that i wouldnt be able to survive if i worked two jobs by the time i pay child support for 3 kids and alimony.

In case you havent figured it out by now, dont get married!!!!

You will have those fuckers that talk about how great it is. Its bullshit! They have either found one of the very few good ones to marry or more than likely, that fucker is lying to you. Misery loves company and since he is trapped, he figures you might as well be too.-Lou

[texasfury]

paying the IRS tax is cheaper than the wife tax.

[Michael Scarn]

thanks guys. I thought it was a bad idea to begin with, pretty much no way I'm doing this.

[atomic charvel guy]

saying " i do" is a huge no-no. In the year 2011 at least it is.
Marriage died with our parents , then again my parents are very old. My dad would be 99 if he were still alive, and my mom is 89
and still going. They toughed it out through 8 lunatic children and made it work, made us want for nothing.
These days, the girls bust out a checklist, what kind of car do you have? what is your job? etc. etc.
Now there are some happily married people on this board, take Alvin Wilson for example, and it gives me hope that it's still an institution that can work,
but you really need to take alot of time to make sure the girl is right for you, and vice versa, we're not in marrying times right now in my opinion.
The whole world cares for one thing only these dyas and that is dollars. It's always been that way, but now more than ever. Always about the dollars.

[dg]

Each situation is different. I'm one of the lucky ones, and about half of my friends are too. The other half are pretty miserable and would answer about the same as most of the guys in this thread. Just judging by how the OP worded the question, I think marriage would be a bad idea in his case. I'd also recommend not having kids. There are already too many broken kids in this world with dads that resent them through no fault of their own, and that sucks for them and for the rest of us as well.

[emperor_black]

I guess you guys are gonna laugh at my case then. I got married the traditional indian way. Parents & brother went and saw the girl, asked her all the questions, and after they were satisfied, let me know about her. We talked on the phone for about 2 - 3 months. I landed in India 5 days before marriage, we dated for two days and been married for 8 years now. We have a Kid and there is no one on this planet who will care for me as much as she will. We have our fights...infact we had one this very morning about a frying pan. So far, no regrets. She was a little on the chubbier side when I got married but she's been eating right and slimming and getting sexier by the day.