Scott Ian Rants!!

[Accept2]

He is always whining about something. I hope his father-in-law sits on his head one day. Maybe it will shrink abit............

[bratfink]

Well when you have bands like Black Veil Brides gracing the cover of mainstream rock magazines what do you expect nowadays?

At least every time I turn on a music channel I don't see HIM everywhere. I fucking hated that dude/band! It seemed 5 years ago that's all you ever saw.

[Sephiroth]

/agree



And this didn't just happen with Anthrax either, they did the same shit to Billy and Dan with S.O.D.
I won't support Scott and Charlie in any way anymore because of the way they treated those band members.

I still remember a few years ago Scott/Charlie bailing out on an SOD tour that costed Billy probably an entire year or two's worth of money to live off of while knowing Billy is basically poorer than shit.


Scott needs to just shut the fuck up and appreciate the fact that he can still make any money at all 30 years into his career in an industry where the average professional career is around 5 years.

[Endrik]

Scott moved to California and has been spending too much time with Gene Simmons.
The problems with SOD have to do with Billy being even bigger douchebag with incurable oral diarrhea.

[toejam]

I've bought every Anthrax album - but I didn't buy the new one, for the simple reason I don't really like it that much apart from "Fight 'Em". Scott and Charlie fucked their singers around for years, almost destroyed the band, talked shit about Joey Belladonna until they had to beg him to come back, then they expect the old fans to forgive all their bullshit and rush out to buy the new album?

I liked John Bush more than Joey, but I didn't buy the last couple albums John was on... I just got sick of Anthrax. I actually did buy the new Anthrax a couple weeks ago, and I think Joey sounds great, and the album is great! I'll be seeing them next week with Testament and Death Angel.

[Nightbat]

Since when has Anthrax ever been as big as Kiss or Maiden?

Ian needs to lay off the pot and see that metal isn't on MTV anymore, neither does his band play anything 'air'worthy
His band has been outdated and replaced by newer generations

No big name THEN is as big as they were then NOW

[MakeAJazzNoiseHere]

Fuck Scott Ian.

Pretty much sums up my sentiments. Fuck Scott Ian. Fucking douchebag.

[GuerillaPete]

I'm an Anthrax fan from the early days and I still agree with the 'fuck Scott Ian' mentality. Scott & Charlie are the poor man's Gene & Paul (Kiss). They never went 'platinum' with their releases - unless you combine worldwide sales of specific albums. Their first Gold record was for I'm The Man - a parody song. The sad part is they're popular because of all the covers they've done. As a fan it hurts me to write this but Anthrax will never be as big as Kiss, Maiden, Metallica or Beiber.

As for the current state of metal music - music in general actually, there are more music releases now than there were in the 90s. Consumers are inundated with too many choices and they have access to the internet to do 'research'. The fact of the matter is you can't stop illegal downloading/sharing. Artists need to find better/smarter streams of revenue than just record sales. Back in the day artists/bands rarely made money solely on their record sales. Touring and merchandising is where they made most of their money. Nowadays you need to do 'exclusives' and 'special and/or limited editions' in order to make a sale.

[javert]

Personally I am stuck in the mentality that if you want to support a band you'll buy a concert ticket and a tour shirt because buying albums supports the label moreso than the bands.

That's what I do as well and I think that's the business model the successful bands are using nowadays. In terms of pure business, the albums are just there to keep the fans interested. Also, as a fan I like that my favorite bands now tour all the time and I get to hear the live on a regular basis.

It's been this way for many other genres for a very long time, by the way. Jazz, blues, and classical musicians have been making their money by playing live rather than via albums sales (save a few exceptions) for a long, long time.

I do have a subscription to an electronic music archive with the biggest ISP in Denmark, but that's something fairly new. I don't mind paying a small monthly fee for access to a huge archive.

[Sephiroth]

Since when has Anthrax ever been as big as Kiss or Maiden?

Ian needs to lay off the pot and see that metal isn't on MTV anymore, neither does his band play anything 'air'worthy
His band has been outdated and replaced by newer generations

No big name THEN is as big as they were then NOW

Scott's rant makes me think he thinks he should be able to maintain the same level of album sales Anthrax had when they were doing arenas while the band's out touring 1000-capacity clubs on their current tour. The size of the venues they're currently playing should fire a shot right in front of his nose about how big his fan base is right now.


I do feel for Scott. In person he is a likeable fun person. He just bitches and vents too much, and he needs to accept that Anthrax didn't quite make it to that level he thinks the band should be at.

[markD]

i can understand his sentiments though. i mean, when you work hard to create something - whether you are "relevant" or not - it can be frustrating when it doesn't hold up to your hopes and expectations. in the case of anthrax, their newest album is EASILY the best thing they have done since "among the living".

i, personally, am a firm believer in supporting your favorites bands in everyway - including buying their CDs. while the money may go to the label, record sales equal better tour support and offset the band's debt ratio to the label for the recording and marketing costs, etc. nuclear blast is a good label, but who knows the details of their deal with anthrax? maybe the band is pretty deep in the hole with the label and scott ian was needing the disc to move a few more copies to get the band in the black.

anyway, the BS with the interent is here to stay. maybe he and his management need to get a bit more internet savvy, but, like i said...i understand his frustrations.

[javert]

As for the current state of metal music - music in general actually, there are more music releases now than there were in the 90s. Consumers are inundated with too many choices and they have access to the internet to do 'research'. The fact of the matter is you can't stop illegal downloading/sharing. Artists need to find better/smarter streams of revenue than just record sales. Back in the day artists/bands rarely made money solely on their record sales. Touring and merchandising is where they made most of their money. Nowadays you need to do 'exclusives' and 'special and/or limited editions' in order to make a sale.

More wise words. I read an article in which somebody (I forget who) argued that it is very, very difficult now to create new "stars" like the old ones as there are some many independent outlets. They simply can't get the kind of exposure (relatively speaking) that they used to.

[javert]

i can understand his sentiments though. i mean, when you work hard to create something - whether you are "relevant" or not - it can be frustrating when it doesn't hold up to your hopes and expectations. in the case of anthrax, their newest album is EASILY the best thing they have done since "among the living".

Well, they held a privilege for so long and now it's gone and they complain - that's only natural. Most musicians outside mainstream music never had that in the first place, though.

[GuerillaPete]

very difficult now to create new "stars" like the old ones as there are some many independent outlets.

New Artist development takes money. And the days of investing/spending money are long gone.

[Sephiroth]

That's what I do as well and I think that's the business model the successful bands are using nowadays. In terms of pure business, the albums are just there to keep the fans interested. Also, as a fan I like that my favorite bands now tour all the time and I get to hear the live on a regular basis.

Seeing Iron Maiden + Rush every 2 - 3 years plus seeing Trans-Siberian Orchestra every Christmas = FUCK YEAH. I am pretty sure I've put all their kids through college by now with the money they've gotten from me.

As for the current state of metal music - music in general actually, there are more music releases now than there were in the 90s. Consumers are inundated with too many choices and they have access to the internet to do 'research'. The fact of the matter is you can't stop illegal downloading/sharing. Artists need to find better/smarter streams of revenue than just record sales. Back in the day artists/bands rarely made money solely on their record sales. Touring and merchandising is where they made most of their money. Nowadays you need to do 'exclusives' and 'special and/or limited editions' in order to make a sale.

if it weren't for tape-copying lots of people never would have heard of bands like Anthrax and Metallica to build up their original fan bases in the first place since the majority of mainstream stores didn't even start carrying that type of music until "Justice For All" became a commercial success. I admit whole-heartedly my first Anthrax tape (Among the Living) was copied from a friend, but I am sure I gave them the money for it with the ticket price and tour shirts and shit (the only other band I've seen more times than Anthrax is Iron Maiden). Piracy helps artists, especially since they do get more from touring than album sales. However a good album is still worth actually buying.


But Scott shouldn't be so naive to assume he should be selling at the same level he did when the band peaked.