Prepare for outrage, this is going to be a long thread...

[Endrik]

Oooohhhhh..Hey Endy you would be a great source of fine playeys outside the realms of metal/shredders in my list. There's a few non metal guys..but I know you could add more. I must include Les Paul..how can you not??!!

I wouldn't take part of any list making when there's words like "the greatest" or "the best" in it. It's perhaps possible to make some kind of list of players who were very influential. And by influential I mean both... innovators (many of who are forgotten) and those who popularized many things and made a lot of folks pick up the instrument.

Honestly the new RS list isn't that bad, specially compared to the old one. But you can clearly see the list is basically a list of the favorite players of the voters... and many of those voters are great players but with very similar backgrounds. You see many great blues players on the list... but most of them are "mid-era" and electric players who no doubt had huge impact on rock players but there's only one player who helped to create the language... Robert Johnson. There's no Charlie Patton or Son House who made the foundation for 20th century popular/beat music guitar playing.

And there's no Charlie Christian, the biggest influence for all jazz guitarists. He created bebop before Charlie Parker... a music which main focus is on very fast improvisational soloing. And I didn't see Django either. How can anyone make a list without that cat?

RS list is very 20th century western pop/rock/beat music oriented. There's no classical or flamenco players... not ever Segovia or Paco not to mention the originators of those types of playing.

There's many bossa players who have influenced millions of Brazilian guitarists but no one knows them in the anglo world. Same can be said about many different places in the world. You know russian singer Alla Pugachyova has sold hundreds of millions of records... more than most legendary western artists... but how many westerners mention her? But in Eastern Europe and West Asia she's probably more influential than Elvis.

[Snoogans]

None of those losers have ever been on Celebrity X Got Talent Factor so they all must suck. Simon Cowell is the best guitarist in the world. So is Kim Jong Il.

[xenophobe]

1) Why should Hetfield be on a greatest guitarist list? Just because he's in a once-popular band?

2) Sorry to hear you're taking anything Rolling Stone says seriously.


Bill, you got a good list there. I'd add Kazumi Watanabe and Buckethead. Glad to see Frank Gambale on your list though.

Which album do you like better, Truth in Shredding or Centrifugal Funk? lol

[horns666]

1) Why should Hetfield be on a greatest guitarist list? Just because he's in a once-popular band?

2) Sorry to hear you're taking anything Rolling Stone says seriously.


Bill, you got a good list there. I'd add Kazumi Watanabe and Buckethead. Glad to see Frank Gambale on your list though.

Which album do you like better, Truth in Shredding or Centrifugal Funk? lol

Hey Xeno, Buckethead..AKA Paul Gilbert is on there...I swear that's him! I'll add Kazumi.

[Snoogans]

Don't forget Christophe Godin!

[Tekky]

**corrected**

None of those losers have ever been on Celebrity X Got Talent Factor so they all must suck. Simon Cowell is the best guitarist in the world. So is Kim Jong Il. Noitch!

[xenophobe]

Hey Xeno, Buckethead..AKA Paul Gilbert is on there...I swear that's him! I'll add Kazumi.

Buckethead's real name is Brian Carroll.

And Kazumi is amazing if you like jazz fusion funk.

[horns666]

1) Why should Hetfield be on a greatest guitarist list? Just because he's in a once-popular band?

2) Sorry to hear you're taking anything Rolling Stone says seriously.


Bill, you got a good list there. I'd add Kazumi Watanabe and Buckethead. Glad to see Frank Gambale on your list though.

Which album do you like better, Truth in Shredding or Centrifugal Funk? lol

Xeno, Thanks for the heads up on Kazumi. He's been around for so long and never really heard his work..until now! Thanks. Oh, I don't have either of those Varney releases. But I do have 2 of 4 of the Unsung Heroes on CD. I had all of them on vinyl..but only found 2 after all these years on CD. The first two luckily..!!! I found those the same day I found Metal for Muthas I & II and the first Metal Massacre!! All for a buck each..obviously the same dude dumped his collection!

Oh, I revised my list. Yeeesh, it really is an endless sea once you jump in..that's just the tip of the iceberg..

[Grim]

Why is Mclaughlin at 68? Bueller? Bueller?

[xenophobe]

Xeno, Thanks for the heads up on Kazumi. He's been around for so long and never really heard his work..until now! Thanks. Oh, I don't have either of those Varney releases. But I do have 2 of 4 of the Unsung Heroes on CD. I had all of them on vinyl..but only found 2 after all these years on CD. The first two luckily..!!! I found those the same day I found Metal for Muthas I & II and the first Metal Massacre!! All for a buck each..obviously the same dude dumped his collection!

Oh, I revised my list. Yeeesh, it really is an endless sea once you jump in..that's just the tip of the iceberg..

Yeah, check out some Kazumi... lots of great melodies and he's really got his own playing style. The only thing that sucks is a lot of his works are out of print, I believe. The guy that turned me onto him is into a lot of strange and old stuff... Sands, Fishbone... and he's really into Holdsworth and Miles Davis.

And yeah, there's so many cool and obscure artists, you just can't keep track of them all.