for the over 40's here, how do you feel? (another cigarette thread)

[ginsambo]

Asma inhaler, chocolate, public masturbation, hard work, running and a consistently good sex life, a lot of ball stratching and fizzy cola bottles.

Yeah, despite the idealism bullcrap they the only things I can think of to even start to get myself giving up off the top of my head.

And the consistently good sex life is never gonna happen. so I'm basically fucked for starters, may as well pay the extra tax, keep stum and be a good citizen.

[RobRR]

Im 30 but smoked for almost 15 years, pack and half a day. Didnt really wanna quit, thought I really enjoyed it. Tried a few different methods, nothing worked. Then I tried Chantix and it was EASY... holy shit, it quit for me, it made them taste horrible so that I just didnt want them. Now all I can remember of smoking is that horrible taste just before I quit. Once you quit, youll look back and realize how much of a junky you can be just from ciggs. Ive found smokers exhibit many of the same traits in their habit as most other hard drug junkies. Yyou can look back and see for yourself... that right there helps me never touch another one!

[atomic charvel guy]

Ward, i can't quit pot, i'd go overly postal. and i had to quit back in '08 for 3 years, and now
I have my medicinal marijuana license and doctor's note to allow it, and it's the only reason i sleep at all, plus
i've always loved it, that may have been the toughest give up of all for me, but if i smoke it or not,
i crave cigarettes possibly more than i craved dope, and that is a monster craving i have fought for decades now.
total warfare with myself. i was awfully stupid, i ran wild for 43 years, that takes some guts, but in the end it's
more stupidity than anything else.

Ginsambo, I think we'd make scary pair if we went out to some bars or clubs. I'm scary no matter who I am with.
We're all mixed bags ya know? and unfortunately, i've always been a very sensitively wired explosive, not so much now,
but in my day, there was always 6 or 7 seconds to go until i would blow, and after that, forget it.

[atomic charvel guy]

Im 30 but smoked for almost 15 years, pack and half a day. Didnt really wanna quit, thought I really enjoyed it. Tried a few different methods, nothing worked. Then I tried Chantix and it was EASY... holy shit, it quit for me, it made them taste horrible so that I just didnt want them. Now all I can remember of smoking is that horrible taste just before I quit. Once you quit, youll look back and realize how much of a junky you can be just from ciggs. Ive found smokers exhibit many of the same traits in their habit as most other hard drug junkies. Yyou can look back and see for yourself... that right there helps me never touch another one!

That's trippy Rob, my brother Jimmy in new York quit that way, but not with Chantix. He simply bought the worst tasting
cigarettes on purpose, and it was so bad he stopped. Then again though, he's got a lot more strength than i ever did. depending on
what one may see as strength.

[atomic charvel guy]

and as far as hard junkies go (that's got me written all over it) i see no difference either, be it drinking, gambling, eating,
fuck, some people go ballistic until they get their coffee in the morning.

[Scooter]

Dude, I quit 3 1/2 months ago. Still feel like shit sometimes, and I'll sneak one in at rehearsal or a show. I slowed to 1/2 a pack a day, then went on the step 3 patches, and I still wanted to tear someones head off and eat it. But IT CAN BE DONE. And I had a heart attack at 38, 3 major arteries 100% blocked (I was dying, and knew it, scary as FUCK!) 41 now, and sometimes I feel like Cartman nailed to the cross sayin "Nope, you guys can't kill me." I love life, and my kids, so I got my panties in a wad and decided it was time. Throw the fuckers down, get the patches, and breathe easier. Pot doesn't decrease lung function (according to some study,) so substitute, and stay fried all the time. It helped me too. Hmmm, if you get elected in November can I be your official Ambassador to the land of MJ? I'll smoke test every satchel that is thrown your way, and grade it for you too. You can do it brother, I have faith in your spirit, you've made it this far, see where you go from here.

[Gartron]

Garton,
i agree, there will be some major fallout and withdrawals, but after a week, if i can get that far, you definitley
have a shot. you just can't pour smoke into your body for a thousand years and not have some kind of disastrous results.
the sick part is i have known this my entire life, but did i stop? of course not.

You'll be fine brother!!..the thing that stopped me going back after the first 24/48 hours was the thought that "I went through THAT for nothing??"...if it was easy then there wouldn't be a multi million dollar industry built up around quitting...BUT it can be done! and I used to love nothing more than a beer and a cig..the two were meant for each other.

now I can drink and not even think of having a smoke.... you can too!

[atomic charvel guy]

you know what's cool Scooter? the dispensaries out here have so much cool shit
that you can eat instead of smoke. Jolly Ranchers, Reeses peanut butter Reefer cups,
chocolate bars, brownies, indica pills, so many different things. it's pretty ridiculous.
if i sneak one, it's all over, i have to totally stop, i can feel it. Elected or not,
you are most welcome to smoke whatever is in stock for free pal.

[atomic charvel guy]

You'll be fine brother!!..the thing that stopped me going back after the first 24/48 hours was the thought that "I went through THAT for nothing??"...if it was easy then there wouldn't be a multi million dollar industry built up around quitting...BUT it can be done! and I used to love nothing more than a beer and a cig..the two were meant for each other.

now I can drink and not even think of having a smoke.... you can too!

that's fucking great. a drink without a smoke is one hell of an achievement. seriously.

here's the sick part, the nicotine is addicting enough alone, but
the filters on these fuckers have over 100 other chemicals in them, and it's not rocket science
to think these tobacco companies haven't done their research on making them just that much harder to put down.

[RobRR]

Theres nothing wrong with using a medication to quit... hard addicts do it all the time as you may be aware. And dont listen when people say "oh dont take Chantix, it makes you crazy!" It works differently for EVERYONE... yes, it can make some people crazy, but for otheres, it will only do what its supposed to do, which is block the nicotine receptors in your brain. That way, when you continue to smoke as the stuff builds up in your system, it gradually makes the ciggs work less and less, until they no longer satisfy you... then you start to taste how they REALLY taste, like they did when you first started. The reason they "taste" good now is because your body NEEDS them and tricks your mind into thinking that they taste good.

Me for example, it didnt change me at all, only effect was slightly more vivid dreams. I took it for less than the recommended time, about 30 days for me. I quit after about 2.5 weeks, I didnt set a quit date, I just stopped gradually until I smoked my last one, and that was it. It was a non-event.

I was one of the guys that never thought they would stop, because I thought I really enjoyed it, it "gave me something to do"... Dont kid yourself, thats just the addiction talking. Now that Im quit, I dont know how the hell I fit all that time in to smoke in the first place. Sure cold turkey works for some, but lets face it, its fucking traumatic, but not like hardcore withdraw, its a more long drawn out process that affects ever part of your life. Going cold turkey is like a woman having a baby without an epidural... at the end of the day you can say you did it, but youre still getting the same result without all the toruture. Seriously, please consider it, if it works for you, its the EASY way to do it and its worth the small amount of $$$ the medicine costs compared to smokes, and the worst that can happen is youll be out a few bucks.

[Scooter]

you know what's cool Scooter? the dispensaries out here have so much cool shit
that you can eat instead of smoke. Jolly Ranchers, Reeses peanut butter Reefer cups,
chocolate bars, brownies, indica pills, so many different things. it's pretty ridiculous.
if i sneak one, it's all over, i have to totally stop, i can feel it. Elected or not,
you are most welcome to smoke whatever is in stock for free pal.

It's still criminal here but:
I am humbled by the awesomeness of your thoughts

[RobRR]

Oh and I make no bones about it... I was sick as fuck for about a year. I had pneumonia 3 times, ear infections, sinus infections... you name it, if it was resperatory related, I had it. I kinda knew that going in to the whole thing, and sure enough, after about a year things started calming down. Im quit 18 months now and have not been sick for the past 4 or 5 months. It will pass, and aside from putting on some weight I feel better overall. I can breathe deep withouot coughing, I dont get those headaches anymore and afterworking on a car all day or the occasional night of drinking, I dont feel like my lungs are collapsing from putting back almost 2 packs. That and all the damn money I saved.

[Ward]

Ward, i can't quit pot, i'd go overly postal.

You & me both

[atomic charvel guy]

if Chantix makes some people crazy, that may be the best way for me to go, I've already got
the crazy part down from the day i was born, i popped out asking the doctor who yanked me out if
he had a light as i was holding a smoke naked and upside down with my reptiles tail still attatched.
maybe they will drive me sane. just a thought here. Chantix. Chantilly Lace. Chandelier. Chantastic.

[atomic charvel guy]

i'm now frantic to get chantixed.