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  • #16
    EMG has quick connect kits for their pickups, but yeah it would be nice if the major players got together and came up with standardized pinouts and connections that use simple push on connectors.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Cygnus X1 View Post
      Just use screw type connectors instead of soldering and you're done.

      soldering can be a little intimidating. use a sharp knife/blade to scratch the surface you're soldering first and then just attach with a tiny bit of solder. even if the surface looks clean the scratching will make it rough enough for the solder to hold on.
      Sam

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      • #18
        Originally posted by emperor_black View Post
        Just use screw type connectors instead of soldering and you're done.

        soldering can be a little intimidating. use a sharp knife/blade to scratch the surface you're soldering first and then just attach with a tiny bit of solder. even if the surface looks clean the scratching will make it rough enough for the solder to hold on.
        I've been soldering for years. I'm an electronics nut and have rewired tons of guitars, but when you have a guitar with 6 ground wires attaching to one pot, you can either try to hold all the wires together and solder them with a big glob, or spread them out and solder each individually to the pot, or solder each wire to a thin copper bar, or break out of the norm and put some sort of common bus terminal to connect each wire to with only soldering 1 lug to the pot. My point is that if everyone had the last option, would you still solder a ton of wires to a pot?
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        • #19
          i am just curious as to what you are wiring that has 6 grounds to the top of the pot!!!!!
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          • #20
            Originally posted by markD View Post
            i am just curious as to what you are wiring that has 6 grounds to the top of the pot!!!!!
            Well take a H-S-S V-T-T Floyded Jackson. You might have three pickup cavity shield ground wires, a bridge ground wire, a ground wire for the output jack, 3 pickup ground wires, plus three more ground wires for the pots. We are up to ten!
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            • #21
              Originally posted by markD View Post
              i am just curious as to what you are wiring that has 6 grounds to the top of the pot!!!!!
              That was more or less just a hypothetical expression. Say you have 3 pickups HSS combination, so that's 3 grounds, then any shielding in the pickup cavities, that's 3 more, then the trem, then some people shield their trem cavity, then the control cavity shielding, then the ground from the input jack. Most people will take their shielding grounds and go to one common lug screwed into the control cavity shielding then bring one wire from the back of the pot... But... Wouldn't it be nice if there was a ground terminal block to connect all that to, so you could eliminate all that soldering? Edited to say... DAMN! You beat me to it Axe! Edited again to say... Plus... With all going to a centralized bus, the impedance would be less across all grounds. I know.. It would be so small of a difference, but still!!!
              Last edited by silar; 08-31-2012, 07:45 PM.
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              • #22


                This are some of what we use for a grounding bus in our PLC control systems, separate grounds go to the bus, then the bus itself is grounded. So once the bus is grounded to your pot, you would just run your pickup and shielding grounds to the terminal. the only soldering would be from the bus to the pot.

                You have a really good idea with this.
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                • #23
                  I was only half-kidding about that multi terminal strip.
                  If just one three-point strip can be fitted it saves a lot of work.
                  You can get several leads just on one of those older style eyelets.

                  Taken from amp building of course.
                  I avoid soldering on pots and chassis boxes as much as possible, and
                  prefer common ground point(s) tied to a star.

                  Really an ideal situation when you are discussing several pickups and shields.
                  So, whatever you can come up with that will be a universal fit would help.
                  Nothing wrong at all with the screw strips you were thinking of.
                  Last edited by Cygnus X1; 08-31-2012, 08:48 PM.

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                  • #24
                    I've managed to cook at least a couple pots in the past grounding everything. This would've been a great help.
                    I want to go out nice and peaceful in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming and hollering like the passengers in his car.

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                    • #25
                      How about just solder 1 wired to the pot, then take this wire along with the other 6, twist together, solder, tape off with electrical tape.

                      Silar,

                      The guitar industry doesn't have quick connects because it's typically thought that once a guitar is put together, that's it - it's done. Thought wasn't given to the aftermarket pickup industry and people swapping.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by The Poolman View Post


                        This are some of what we use for a grounding bus in our PLC control systems, separate grounds go to the bus, then the bus itself is grounded. So once the bus is grounded to your pot, you would just run your pickup and shielding grounds to the terminal. the only soldering would be from the bus to the pot.

                        You have a really good idea with this.
                        That's what I do for a living too! PLC's, RTU's, PAC's, etc.. Love it. I thought about the buss terminal bars like what you show, but they would be too long. Would need to be a modular screw terminal, or something like that.
                        1996 Jackson PS-4 Performer - Trans Green flame
                        1997 Jackson DX1 Professional - Black
                        2001 Jackson DX10DFS - Trans Red - Soon to be Bubinga Burl!
                        2006 Jackson DK2M - Inferno Red
                        2007 Jackson DXMG - Black
                        2011 Charvel Desolation DC-2 - Trans Black
                        1978 Fender 12 String Acoustic
                        2004 Alverez Acoustic/Electric
                        2011 Fender 4 string Jazz Bass
                        1995 Ibanez 4 string ??? Bass

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by DonP View Post
                          How about just solder 1 wired to the pot, then take this wire along with the other 6, twist together, solder, tape off with electrical tape.

                          Silar,

                          The guitar industry doesn't have quick connects because it's typically thought that once a guitar is put together, that's it - it's done. Thought wasn't given to the aftermarket pickup industry and people swapping.
                          I realize that, but it would be nice for all of us, even the guitar industry during manufacturing (would save them time and money), to have something like this...
                          1996 Jackson PS-4 Performer - Trans Green flame
                          1997 Jackson DX1 Professional - Black
                          2001 Jackson DX10DFS - Trans Red - Soon to be Bubinga Burl!
                          2006 Jackson DK2M - Inferno Red
                          2007 Jackson DXMG - Black
                          2011 Charvel Desolation DC-2 - Trans Black
                          1978 Fender 12 String Acoustic
                          2004 Alverez Acoustic/Electric
                          2011 Fender 4 string Jazz Bass
                          1995 Ibanez 4 string ??? Bass

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by silar View Post
                            I realize that, but it would be nice for all of us, even the guitar industry during manufacturing (would save them time and money), to have something like this...
                            Guitar companies are ran by accountants whose only motivation is money. Pump the company, flip it on the stock market, and cash out the options. Look at the Facebook fiasco

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by MikeStrat View Post
                              You mean this? http://www.liberator.com/

                              Slightly different purpose!
                              Yep. As I mentioned.
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by silar View Post
                                I realize that, but it would be nice for all of us, even the guitar industry during manufacturing (would save them time and money), to have something like this...
                                You build it, I'll be happy to test it in a Sully.

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