Swapping out spark plug......about to commit homicide....

[LouSiffer]

2004 Ford 5.4L with the factory 2 piece plugs. All 8 broke. I would like to find the fuck that designed this and the other fuck that approved it. I tried all the pre-install ideas....... Sea Foam in the tank for a couple of weeks, Aero-Kroil overnight soak, heating engine up a bit before breaking spark plugs loose......no luck. -Lou

[Trem]

Sucks man, here's some info on it. Good Luck.

http://www.aa1car.com/library/ford_broken_spark_plug_problem.htm

[axmann]

When you find them make sure you call me so I can come over and kick them both in the sack. I have the same fucking thing. Same year, same motor.

[xenophobe]

Sucks man, here's some info on it. Good Luck.

http://www.aa1car.com/library/ford_broken_spark_plug_problem.htm

What a PITA.

[LouSiffer]

None of the little tricks advertised worked for me. I got one plug base that just isnt coming out....even with the extractor. -Lou

[Hellbat]

Pull it to the Ford dealership, push it ass first up to their front door and tell them it will sit there till they pull their shitty spark plug from their shitty cylinder head.

[Trem]

I was going to suggest PB Blaster, but i see you already tried similar, i had to look up what Aero-Kroil was. You've probably tried more things already that i could even suggest. I've delt with frozen rusted impossible to reach parts before, but being where your is located is pretty harsh. I'd say keep douching it with lube, even if it takes a week it will probably come out eventually. GL

Oh and hope your not in the road, seems like you travel a lot? That would suck balls.

[DonP]

What a PITA.

+1

I'm guessing this is an aluminum head? So the spark plug is siezed in the head?

[len]

Sucks man, here's some info on it. Good Luck.

http://www.aa1car.com/library/ford_broken_spark_plug_problem.htm

Looks easy enough.
All you have to do is remove the head, slice into little pieces and the spakplug will come right out.

[pjg]

Aero Kroil is the shit too. Wow.

[LouSiffer]

The spark plugs have an extended tip that gets covered in carbon. The tip usually becomes seized into the head because of the carbon. All of them broke and all of them came out fairly easy with the tool......except one. Of course, it is the one that is the hardest to get to. I am to the point to where I believe the head is going to have to come off. -Lou

[decadence5423]

I hate taking shit out of a car that was installed in the factory. My fiances Saturn Vue has the aluminum head and I had to replace the exhaust manifold. Luckily none of the seized, wiggling them back and forth seemed to work fine. We tried to get the O2 sensor out of the old exhaust manifold. No way. Had to get a new O2 sensor. Holy fuck what a bunch of assholes. Put everything back on with anti seize.

[tomanyjacksons]

Ford 4.6 and 5.4 have the same issue with this. Design flaw in my opinion. I'm a ford lover and all of my "toys" over the years have been Fords. Which makes it tough for me to say this, don't buy anything with the modular engines in them. I know it doesn't fix your problem but it's something to think about for others thinking of buying them. When I worked at a Ford dealership in town here, and a few other places I mechaniced at we had too take off quite a few heads. Of course the customers weren't at all happy about what the cost was going to be when all they wanted was a tune up. The plugs and the boots on the bottom of the coil packs were enough to make them sing the blues over the cost and to throw the cost of pulling one or two heads off sent them into a realm of pissed off that was unimagineable. One of the places I worked at got too the point that we wouldn't touch them anymore. Funniest thing I ever found though pulling a head off of a 4.6 was the absence of a head gasket, go figure. The owner told us that the thing always had an appetite for coolant from when it wasn't very old. Buy a Chevy truck the engines seem to have less of the BS that Fords and Dodges have. As far as imports go I haven't worked on any since the newwer full sizes have come out as I quit meching so I can play music again, I like having all the skin on my hands.

[DonP]

Buy a Chevy truck the engines seem to have less of the BS that Fords and Dodges have.

What issues have you found with 2011 5.7L or 6.4L Hemis?

Thanks.

[bratfink]

What issues have you found with 2011 5.7L or 6.4L Hemis?

My Hemi keeps having dumb failures. Oil pressure sensor switch, 4 went in a row. Checked oil pressures at all temps and RPMs, all within normal range. Just 4 shitty parts in a row!

I hate the way they have set up the ECM for o2 sensors. If you try and put a high performance exhaust on it it will throw a light, regardless of what sensor tricks you try, it will eventually throw a code. It's all in the way the computer does the sensor range check, it will randomly change fuel load and measure the response. Since this is a random event you can't apply a voltage offset (resistor), and repositioning the o2 sensor is extremely hit and miss. And on certain years they changed the predator systems so you can no longer switch the rear o2's off!

From a company who traditionally supported aftermarket hot rodding, this is very short sighted. If you wanted to use a Hemi in anything you would have to buy a totally different ecm and start from scratch rather than just using the stock unit.


And my biggest bone to pick with all of them is the lack of manual transmission options. Why do I have to buy an SRT8 Challenger if I want a stick???