You lucky bastards in Colorado and Washington.......TOKE AWAY!!!!!

[xenophobe]

If I were you, I'd pick these:

Blue Cheese (very very potent)
MK Ultra (members only) (never tried)
Northern Lights #5 (amazing and a classic)
OG Kush (members only) (very very potent)
Purple Kush (members only) (mmm tasty)
Skunk #1 (who doesn't like Skunk?)

I'm surprised the Diezel and Chocholope are both sativa strains. I have a Diezel/Chocholope hybrid and it's really potent. I only discolor the top of a bong hit of this and call it fine. It'll easily give me panic attacks if I take more than two hits.

And I love potent indicas, but I only take a small hit. I love the feeling of getting high, not being baked/brain dead. Though I am often baked when I come here.

[len]

Man they have so much crazy shit at the dispensaries , I don't even know where to choose from around here. Here is a sample menu:
http://indispensary.com/menu-medical...-cannabis.html

Whats with the "Members Only" strains ?

[Horse Called War]

If you choose that dispensary to be your medical mary jane provider , you get access to special strains. I had a chocolate cookie from another dispensary and that shit did me in , I was supposed to eat a few bites and ate the whole thing.

[xenophobe]

Watch out for those edibles. It's far too easy to over-medicate.

[VitaminG]

LA Confidential smells really pretty and has a very light high,

does it taste like James Ellroy?

[Nightbat]

That's my point. People are going to buy illegal drugs and criminals are going to take advantage the high prices due to it being illegal. We've had a war on drugs for over 40 years, but drug usage is worst than it has ever been. If we make weed legal, than cartels and crime family's are just going to focus on something else. If we make everything legal than what are the cartels going to sell?

...even worse stuff, or they're gonna have to focus more on 'protection money'
and I rather have the choice to do drugs than to be forced to give money

Hitting puberty in the 90's, I would've been rich if I got a buck every time somebody claimed to "only use weed, but have no intention to try anything stronger"
and with the decriminalization of weed, there came an influx of XTC and Speed (guess why)

During that time, I saw classmates throw away their education just because they 'needed' to get high during lunchbreak (funnily never did somebody come to school drunk - that's what weekends were for)
Broken homes because parents didn't agree with what their kid was doing
Not to mention ending friendships. Hey, I'm well aware reality bites, but meeting people who apparently are always under influence of 'something' to sooth their worries and problems gets old real quick


and what really irks me, is that people are currently crucifying smokers and alcoholics, but have no qualms about legalizing every other fucked up substance
People can't even handle prescription drugs and we're gonna give them more shit? Get the Fuck out of here!

I'm no saint, I also don't expect others to be saints, wanna get drunk/high/whatever, fine, but often it's forgotten what the effect is gonna be when shit gets out of hand

[atomic charvel guy]

Dispensary day is better than any holiday on the calender

[atomic charvel guy]

...even worse stuff, or they're gonna have to focus more on 'protection money'
and I rather have the choice to do drugs than to be forced to give money

Hitting puberty in the 90's, I would've been rich if I got a buck every time somebody claimed to "only use weed, but have no intention to try anything stronger"
and with the decriminalization of weed, there came an influx of XTC and Speed (guess why)

During that time, I saw classmates throw away their education just because they 'needed' to get high during lunchbreak (funnily never did somebody come to school drunk - that's what weekends were for)
Broken homes because parents didn't agree with what their kid was doing
Not to mention ending friendships. Hey, I'm well aware reality bites, but meeting people who apparently are always under influence of 'something' to sooth their worries and problems gets old real quick


and what really irks me, is that people are currently crucifying smokers and alcoholics, but have no qualms about legalizing every other fucked up substance
People can't even handle prescription drugs and we're gonna give them more shit? Get the Fuck out of here!

I'm no saint, I also don't expect others to be saints, wanna get drunk/high/whatever, fine, but often it's forgotten what the effect is gonna be when shit gets out of hand

be happy that you're not an addict then, seems to me you don't have the allergy that makes up an alcoholic or a drug addict, or any other excess that
people have problems with, you're ahead of the curve in other words, use that to your advantage.

[RacerX]

be happy that you're not an addict then, seems to me you don't have the allergy that makes up an alcoholic or a drug addict, or any other excess that
people have problems with, you're ahead of the curve in other words, use that to your advantage.

^

This is the voice of experience!

[Nightbat]

be happy that you're not an addict then, seems to me you don't have the allergy that makes up an alcoholic or a drug addict, or any other excess that
people have problems with, you're ahead of the curve in other words, use that to your advantage.

21 years of smoking and still going strong would state otherwise

^

This is the voice of experience!

Then what would experience say about making drugs readily available to people susceptible to addiction?

If the Dutch drug toleration policy wasn't implemented, I myself -and probably a whole lot of others- would hardly have come into contact with weed, and the chance of coming into contact with coke would be close to non-existant
(both of which I tried, not mentioning some of the stuff that 'passed the table' in my presence that I didn't touch)
Simple stuff like getting high on weed every day, wouldn't be sustainable for teens with a pizza- or paperdelivery job if that toleration didn't drop the price significantly


Sure if you want drugs, you can get them -always- but the chance to be introduced to them when it's too hard/expensive/risky to share casually amongst strangers is a lot lower
Also, the stigma would make you think twice about trying it out for fun


I may be naive in thinking like that, but I can't call "a problem under control" not a problem
We aren't legalizing murder because because we can't prevent it from happening, you don't see anyone raising the speedlimits by 50mph because people keep speeding

[len]

Sure if you want drugs, you can get them -always- but the chance to be introduced to them when it's too risky to share casually among strangers is a lot lower
the stigma would make you think twice about trying it out for fun

I see your point and in a perfect world,kids would not be introduced to them in thier formative years.
Two words ; High School.

[Ward]

Sure if you want drugs, you can get them -always- but the chance to be introduced to them when it's too hard/expensive/risky to share casually amongst strangers is a lot lower

I may be naive in thinking like that, but I can't call "a problem under control" not a problem
We aren't legalizing murder because because we can't prevent it from happening, you don't see anyone raising the speedlimits by 50mph because people keep speeding

First off, many polls have shown that now teenagers can obtain weed MUCH more easily than alcohol. That was certainly the case when I was a teen. An illegal dealer doesn't care if you are of legal age, a legal retailer who could lose his license or go to jail for selling to a minor would care. Legalization also means regulation, and that regulation actually makes it tougher to obtain outside the rules than it is now.

I guess the main disagreement we have is that you call it a 'problem ' at all. I do not consider weed a problem, I consider laws against it a problem. It is a victimless crime that was originally made illegal by politicians and profiteers for their own personal gains/agendas.

We aren't legalizing murder because there is a victim in the crime. Did you really just compare smoking weed to murder?

Many states have in fact raised speed limits over the years (from 55 to as high as 85 in some places). Not because 'people keep speeding', but because over the years we as a people have realized that those lower limits that were imposed during the gas crisis are not necessary, and only make sense for those that benefit from enforcement of and penalties generated by said laws. Hopefully we as a country are finally realizing the same about pot laws.

[ginsambo]

I think as said, on the whole, if you have a balanced emotional and physical state any downers or uppers can give you a nice civilised buzz.

But I kind of agree with Nightbat, you don't start smoking or drinking because it's legal or not, it's because you want a buzz or if you are born or develop an intolerance, pleasantly annilated for your welfare. You do it for the kicks. Legalising it just gives it legal credentials, so it must be safe right, like alcohol is safe right, a nice legal buzz, right?

Whilst it is not physically addictive, psychosematically I think it can be for some people and way too much of it on a regular basis does make you into an emotional retarded zombie, no doubt, the same as developing an subtle intolerance and addiction to alcohol eventually creeps up on you and makes you into a yellow eyed monster who hates to drink but has to to survive the emotional and physical carcrash so keeps drinking and only starts to wake up when they are puking blood on their sister's carpet from an abdominal bleed whilst they are trying to help them, if they ever do.

My point is that maybe society is still way too repressed, unequal and fucked up to start introducing legal highs. It is not a condusive place to wholesomeness, rationality and emotional stability. In true western fashion, we are taking substances that traditionally have been kept reserved for important spiritual or coming of age celebrations and treating them like candy, the same as we stuff ourselves with food and gte obese, where as traditionally we'd only eat enough to get us by.

If we legalised cannibis we should legalise everything, legalise nudism and public sex acts and beastiality and balance out the wage scale and employment geography and realise as a society how fucked up it is to get up and sit, po faced, on the porcelain every morning whilst slaving your entire life for a small box to live in, without any emotional or spiritual reward and how crazy we all are but how well we all hide it and how the true psycho's don't even see it for what it is as crazy.

Now for that to work properly we have to engineer society across the board, mix up class networking, selectivism and financial and geographical isolation and glass ceilings and introduce civil service mandatory base jumping and hand gliding in schools and team building projects without H&S restrictions and make a society where anyone is truely able to acheive anything and is born equal, without any glass ceilings or special networks. Now that is insane, you can't do that because you fuck with people's freedoms.

So we keep on keeping on, treading water in a mired democratic system, in denial, with social inequalities and injustices, glass ceilings and I'm alright Jack morals, deceived into believing we are free on life long mortgages, increasingly paranoid about the ruling elite, increasingly paranoid about the intentions of science, whilst cracking on about the goodness of legalising substances or not, in our own little worlds and taking each day as it comes.

Judging by the amount of guitars everyone seems to have on this forum, including myself, I would say that society and life in general is completely fucked up.

The whole legalising issue is a can of worms, arguments go both ways and it probably equals out 50:50.

Sometimes laws are there for a reason, despite what you may think personally, but I do applaud the movement away from centralisation of power that is coming through with this. That is one step nearer towards a truer democracy IMO. Personally I don't care if cannabis is legal or not really, thinking about it. I have seen it do harm and I think it stinks, but I see the majority of users who enjoy it. I know democracy always ends up eating itself and good intentions do pave the road to hell. So why not. Put eight people in a room together and you won't get them to agree on everything. So what the hell, what chance is there, you might as well just live day to day and why should you get a prison sentence for doing something you enjoy?

Laws, modern life and society is getting so complicated you need a fucking PHD in astro physics just the claw away at the edges, it's becoming impossible to fathom like some kind of enveloping space time contineum, so all we can ever hope for is to apply a few band aids over the tears when they appear, for better or for worse, keep calm, buckle down and carry on.

Change, at least is probably a good thing.

But we are all fucking doomed whichever way you look at it.

[ginsambo]

Maybe david Icke is right, maybe it is all a plan to keep us down.

[Shawn Lutz]

legal or illegal weed is readily available in all social classes, not just the poor hoods. I found about it in elementary school in middle class America. It is harmless. Any harm associated with is the cartels and dealers who protect their turf and buyers going to places they normally wouldn't go to when their town is dry.

I would like to see one study where weed killed anyone. Alcohol is legal and it killers scores of people who pickle their livers with it, it kills scores of people in drunk driving accidents. Cigarettes are legal yet it kills scores of people from lung cancer and other health ailments.

I started smoking pot after 6th grade, it never led me to shooting heroin or harder stuff. It is not addicting and I'm prone to that like coke from my experimentation with it in my early 20's which can grab a hold of you really quick. The 40 year old pot head loser living in his moms basement is a loser because he chooses to be not because of the pot. I could show you a bunch of highly educated people who are successful in life that smoke fairly regularly and it has no negative affect on their lives. These types smoke in private and you'd be shocked to know that they smoke the stuff but I'm good at keeping secrets .

Pharmaceutical companies rake in BILLIONS pushing dope on people because it is legal, anti depressants, pain killers, anti- anxiety, pills to sleep, pills to wake up a pill for this a pill for that. I know when I'm majorly stressed after a couple of hits from some good stuff you can actually feel the stress start leaving your body. Ever have a bought with the stomach flu? It helps with that. Ever have a bout of insomnia? Smoke before bed and sleep like a baby. Ever feel creativity lacking? Warm up for a few and smoke some and watch the ideas come out of no where This is all personal experiences I've had with the stuff and I'm no lazy loser or uneducated and advance in my career and always exceed employers expectations year after year even with the bar being raised.

The people are speaking here, the reefer madness propaganda believing generation is coming out of power...