I have been permanently banned from USACharvels.com

[neilli]

I was banned a couple of years ago, because Tracy wouldn't respect the rules on a forum I'm an admin on. USAC had actually lost all credibility with me prior to that anyway, so it was no great loss.

What blew me away was that Tracy actually had multiple accounts on USAC that he logged in as (and may well still do), to keep things 'busy' and agree with himself. When you realise what's happening, it's easy to spot - these fake users post in like 20 threads in a minute, never post their own gear or pics and so forth. And these made up a large proportion of the 'active user base' for USAC. Plus he's the first to use somebody else's pictures, but then he'll lock his site to prevent others downloading them again.

Strangely, I met him in person in around 2004 and he was a really nice, hospitable guy. But something happens when he sits at a computer..

[javert]

I just had a thought about this. Could this increase the amount of money he gets from advertisements? If I were a company looking to spend money advertizing on the web, I'd pay more for a site with lots of activity. Isn't this why Facebook was supposed to be worth so much money?

It's not the amount of activity in itself, it's what people write. It's all potentially useful information for companies. People are of course more likely to spill the beans when they write more. It's quite scary how well that ads match.

[Shawn Lutz]

There are no ads on his site.

If I remember correctly he got into it with Brett or Chuck on the CC and decided to start his own forum. I don't know, I don't feel like I'm being forced to post anything. It is a well ran board in my opinion with a small community of cool cats. I also don't think his posting rule is all that bad, there is a lot less drama abd bitching back and forth. It's not a free resource for all things Charvel related so posting, contributions are your payment for the resource ans quite honestly not that difficult rule follow. If you don't like it, just don't go there.

I'm not all that into C/J's these days but I met a lot of cool people since about 98 here and other forums so I go to visit them wherever they choose to hang out at and remain friends with them.

[DonP]

I don't feel like I'm being forced to post anything.

Maybe you have a lot more history with USA Charvels and have something useful to say rather than "I like the blue one".

I don't know jack shit about USA Charvels, so what am I going to say? It's like going to a party by yourself and not knowing anyone at the party or what they are talking about. You want to listen in for a while to get the hang of the place.

I can see why the rules seem fair to you, but can you see why the rules are not fair to someone with no knowledge of USA Charvels?

[Shawn Lutz]

I can see why the rules seem fair to you, but can you see why the rules are not fair to someone with no knowledge of USA Charvels?

I understand both sides here, I really do but for me I think it would be easier to post more if I didn't know anything about Charvels...you could have a post for every question you want and followup posts In my case I don't have a whole lot of interest in Charvels and acquiring them like the good old days but there are plenty of topics that ask simple questions like which one do you like and why? etc. etc.

[~K~]

He had already gotten into it with Brett and I believe I banned him from CC which started a war. Then it carried over to the JCF between him and Chuck and he got banned here for a time too. It got to the point that the boards became too much of a reality for some people and it became very draining on me at a very tough time. I took leave from CC then evetually shut it down.

There are no ads on his site.

If I remember correctly he got into it with Brett or Chuck on the CC and decided to start his own forum. I don't know, I don't feel like I'm being forced to post anything. It is a well ran board in my opinion with a small community of cool cats. I also don't think his posting rule is all that bad, there is a lot less drama abd bitching back and forth. It's not a free resource for all things Charvel related so posting, contributions are your payment for the resource ans quite honestly not that difficult rule follow. If you don't like it, just don't go there.

I'm not all that into C/J's these days but I met a lot of cool people since about 98 here and other forums so I go to visit them wherever they choose to hang out at and remain friends with them.

[wilkinsi]

Can he ban me before I register?

[coloradoman25]

Can he ban me before I register?

not sure perhaps in the alternate universe this would be considered a relevant post in his mind and thus you would be spared the kraken

[toejam]

And the funny thing is, he was logged in yesterday and reading this thread, yet he doesn't have the balls to post...

[kmanick]

I'm sure he's bashing me to end end over on his forum for starting this thread LOL!
I'm not even mad about it , I just thought that it was really funny that I tried to log into a site I've been going to for , I don't know 8 years or so and out of the blue I get this huge bold font staring me in the face telling I've been permantently banned. LOL!
got to hand it to him , he's got great people skills.

[coloradoman25]

Only thing I really give him credit for is managing to hoard all the charvels that he can "fett style" lol. Oh and if it werent for Jim Shine and a few others the information would not be HALF what it is on his site. Just because he runs it doesnt mean that he is the main source of information.

Like I said he talks crap about me every chance he gets. Best thing is I KNOW guys from his site from time to time snag stuff from me. Somehow im a bad guy to them.

He also REALLY LIKES the drama that the bannings bring sometimes I think he does it just to inspire the drama.

[Shawn Lutz]

It is a forum coloradoman, its not a free information site for anyone. It is more like a bunch of old buddies shooting the shit. I find the oppiste, he doesn't want the drama and rules in my opinion help keep folks who post just to troll people in to a feeding frenzy of negative bullshit.

I just went and checked and there are no threads bashing anyone from the JCF, unlike this thread which has a few bashing post about him ans his board. There is a thread about this thread but no one is bashing anyone as far as I can tell.

I know Nick from boards way back and I don't see his intentions slamming anyone, more so him finding it funny to be banned. There have been several people who have gotten banned and immediately jump on other forums and whine about it. Certainly waste a lot of energy and time posting about something they don't care about If they didn't really care they really wouldn't be crying about it in my opinion.

[j2379]

thats kind of sad. Don't really know Trace i know a couple of guys from that board and have hung out W a few of the old Charvel collectors from NY/Long island. All NICE guys, i think banning people for lack of posts or no reason is kind of dumb if your trying to further the future collectibility of old Charvels. lets face it there are not that many people collecting them anymore, and good info on late 70's 80's guitars isn't as prevalent as old fenders and gibsons. I've always been a huge fan of the Deans, Hamers, BCRs and C/J's, before the internet and "good knowledgable" forums there weren't many good recourses for these guitars. Hell the more good info on old BCRich's, the more forums, and more interest only helps my BCR collection gain value and keeps the younger players interested in stuff they wouldn't normally be into. but hey i guess there is that mentality and the elitist, look at ME im the all knowing all powerful.....

Ron be kind i was an art major.....lol.

[coloradoman25]

Shawn a friend forwarded to me FROM that post that trace LOVES when people talk about being banned elsewhere. He says it proves his relevance. Same guy that tells me all the chit he talks about me. I dont need free information or help not asking for it or complaining about it really. I just find the practice of forcing posts really stupid.

Some people NEED to learn and that is their reason for joining the site. They here are even speaking in the thread. While trying to learn they dont want to post a million stupid things or "i like the blue one" just to PROVE their worth to the site...because really wtf does that accomplish; and I can tell you to stay alive if you arent one of the chosen few you need to do that when you just dont know the information.

Someone stated to ask questions...ya know how that is met....that is met with use the search function thus making the post pointless. I respect traces collection and shines information and the others over there (even if they dont respect me or even like me) BUT what I think is ludicrous is running off members that COULD become useful if allowed to learn for a bit from the information that they provide. There is some cool stuff but I still believe with some good sleuthing anything can be found elsewhere on the web.

IF ya wanna make it a good ole boys club why not just do that and lock out the newbs

[coloradoman25]

someone should just do a copy and paste from his site and "share" that wealth over here LOL