Muscle Cars!

[bombtek]

That's why...I guess until I get a blown 4xxx(whatever!) in that Monte Carlo...I shy away from these threads.
Which, TBH, I'm not "going there".
Too many of those cars were totally screwed with and street/stripped to death.
Some mods and 300+ HP is all it needs to be badass enough for me.

Same with the Mach 1's.
Heavy cars.
351C was a powerful but slow off-the-line engine.
But so cool to see!

And what happened to all of those 88 to 92 Mustangs?
They were EVERYWHERE, now I literally see just a few.

Let me grab a couple clone shots of what I'm talking about:
Well crap, I cannot find even a decent Internet pic of the 92 LX.



But at least this 71 Mach 1 is nearly identical to the one I had:



I see three issues though.
The actual paint had a flat black "NASA" hood.
The locks were not original to the Mach 1's, only to the Boss 429's afaik, and the mirrors are supposed to be color keyed (yellow in this case).

Took mine to a Mustang show judged by amatuers who passed my original over for a fake.
It was a fastback that someone had applied Mach 1 stickers to.
Damn thing didn't even have the hood scoops or the honeycomb grille on it!
But it was shiny!

I had 1970 in Blue with black striping. Didn't come with the 351C motor though. Mine was bone stock with a 351W. I've had both the C and the W and IMO he C took too long to spin up, where as the W, you just hammered the gas pedal and it was INSTANT. Either throw your head back nearly snapping your neck or tires lose grip and keep spinning till either they blow or you let off the gas. lol

[xenophobe]

I'm getting a bit envious and anxious. Another Jag forum member is doing mostly the same upgrades I am and just posted update pictures today, except he's about 3 months ahead of me. But he opted to do the SC first and the LSD later... I wanted the LSD in before the SC upgrade. My top end will look identical to this... upgraded 75mm intake and Kenne Bell twin screw replacing the Easton roots-type:

A guy-thing of beauty

FWIW, this is the first time I've ever done any serious intake mods to any vehicle... and I've owned a whole slew of muscle cars since I started driving in 1983.

And yeah, I know my XKR isn't exactly a muscle car... but it is a true GT to it's soon to be 560bhp heart and 20+psi soul. ;D

[Cygnus X1]

I had 1970 in Blue with black striping. Didn't come with the 351C motor though. Mine was bone stock with a 351W. I've had both the C and the W and IMO he C took too long to spin up, where as the W, you just hammered the gas pedal and it was INSTANT. Either throw your head back nearly snapping your neck or tires lose grip and keep spinning till either they blow or you let off the gas. lol

Heh, THANKS, someone with some experience.
Actually the 2BBL Cleveland was a little quicker than the Windsor IMO.
Problem with the 4BBL was both the damn dual point ignition and the set-point for the vacuum secondary flooding out
right when you need the kick.
An MSD on the '73 and a cheaper Mallory on the '71 solved the ignition issues.
Just adjusting the secondary on the '71 solved a lot of issues, but yes still a bit "boggy".
The Cleveland heads were "semi-hemi" and under aspirated for the volume potential.
IIRC the stock 4BBL carbs were only 550 CFM, or less.

[Cygnus X1]

I think the best "bang for the bucK' for my MCSS would be EFI on top of that old tree fitty.

[roodyrocker]

Heh, THANKS, someone with some experience.
Actually the 2BBL Cleveland was a little quicker than the Windsor IMO.
Problem with the 4BBL was both the damn dual point ignition and the set-point for the vacuum secondary flooding out
right when you need the kick.
An MSD on the '73 and a cheaper Mallory on the '71 solved the ignition issues.
Just adjusting the secondary on the '71 solved a lot of issues, but yes still a bit "boggy".
The Cleveland heads were "semi-hemi" and under aspirated for the volume potential.
IIRC the stock 4BBL carbs were only 550 CFM, or less.

The hot setup these days is a Clevor. Which is basically the bottom end of a 351W with the heads of a 351C. The 351C 4 barrel heads had huge ports. Depending on the year, they were either open or closed chamber. The 2 barrel heads had smaller ports, smaller being relative here as they were plenty big for a small block, and compression was lower. The 351C 2 barrel Australlian heads had the best of both worlds and thats what a lot of people looked for to hop up a motor. Today, they are available in aftermarket versions in aluminum. That and there have been various other aftermarket 351C style heads like the Yates heads, etc... Ford even combined the Windsor style bottom end with Cleveland style heads back in 69-70. It was called the Boss 302 Blue Oval power is good thing, a very good thing

[axmann]

A 70' hemi Challenger? That clean? I'm done before I posted. Beautiful.

[roodyrocker]

A 70' hemi Challenger? That clean? I'm done before I posted. Beautiful.

Thank you. It is very clean. It was originally a 383 from the factory. It was restored by a friend of mine back in 1984 as a hemi car. The Hemi motor and transmission are original pieces, not a newer crate motor. The car was clean to begin with and came from TN.

[straycat]

I had a 70 383 Challenger great car it was my first car that had air conditioning.
Red with a black vinyl top/black interior slap stick shifter.Had the wider rally wheels too.
Dual exhaust just like the R/T's.
My brothers wife had a 70 electric blue 340 Challenger flat hood and small V8 badges on the side.Pretty much a sleeper.

[bombtek]

Heh, THANKS, someone with some experience.
Actually the 2BBL Cleveland was a little quicker than the Windsor IMO.
Problem with the 4BBL was both the damn dual point ignition and the set-point for the vacuum secondary flooding out
right when you need the kick.
An MSD on the '73 and a cheaper Mallory on the '71 solved the ignition issues.
Just adjusting the secondary on the '71 solved a lot of issues, but yes still a bit "boggy".
The Cleveland heads were "semi-hemi" and under aspirated for the volume potential.
IIRC the stock 4BBL carbs were only 550 CFM, or less.

Maybe its just cuzza nostalgia, but I will always favor the Windsor over the Cleveland lol.

[Nimitz]

Not a "muscle car" but does have muscle car engine.

When I drive this around I pretend I'm some rich doctor in 1961.

[rjohnstone]

My wife and I both have a "thing" for 67' Mustangs.

This is a before and after shot.

Before.... rough 67 with a burnt 289 and lots of "aging".

After... same 67 with a new 302 ported 20 over, disc brakes, suspension (F and R), 3:83 rear end, all new interior, gauges, dash, tranny... I think the only original parts left was the actual body itself.
Bumpers and front clip were new as well.
Painted it Anniversary green with a Palomino colored top. Some ass fuck stole the original hubcaps. Took forever to find them too.
Should have never sold it.

[Cygnus X1]

Maybe its just cuzza nostalgia, but I will always favor the Windsor over the Cleveland lol.

I completely understand!

On a related note I've flipped Ford/Chevy so many different times I can't count.
Doesn't make a whole lot of difference to me.
Except the price of the parts.
That's about the only reason I go old Chevy now.
I don't have much to spend (obviously) on cars.

[roodyrocker]

I completely understand!

On a related note I've flipped Ford/Chevy so many different times I can't count.
Doesn't make a whole lot of difference to me.
Except the price of the parts.
That's about the only reason I go old Chevy now.
I don't have much to spend (obviously) on cars.

The price of parts hasn't been an issue in a Ford vs. Chevy debate in over two decades now. Building a small block Chevy is going to cost roughly the same as a small block Ford. My 93 Mustang LX coupe is a good example of that

[roodyrocker]

Not a "muscle car" but does have muscle car engine.

When I drive this around I pretend I'm some rich doctor in 1961.

I still think the interiors on those old T-Birds are the nicest, fanciest interiors in any car!

[Snoogans]

Some cool stuff posted so far!
Never had the money or space to run Yankee iron, (I have a Civic) but I've always loved 'em. I reckon it was all the cop shows we had on the TV in the 70s!
A good friend of mine has had a few Mustangs, and is currently running this shy and retiring '69...