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  • #31
    There are big differences from Android device to Android device. I was an early adopter with the Moto Droid I, and it was reasonably stable with the notable exception of WiFi. It would sort of go away and need a full reset every other week or so. The battery pull was needed once in a while for hard lockups. I moved on to the Razr M a year ago. and the stability is spectacular. I reboot it maybe once every other month, if that, and it tends to be for non-critical widget issues. I'm glad the battery pull is no longer required since the battery is not removable.

    Windows phones come in last place in this regard.
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    • #32
      Originally posted by shreddermon View Post
      The droid os isn't quite as solid, but damn close. And they're a LOT more flexible. More apps, etc. Arguably more user friendly now, too. About the only drawback I've found is managing music. ITunes is easy peesy. Several apps come real close though.
      What version of Android are you using? Anything ICS or JB is pretty freaking awesome. Older 2.x and 3.x Android wasn't all that great.

      My friend's daughter got an iphone 5s when they first came out... When I got my HTC One, she got all butthurt cause my phone made the iphone look like a piece of shit.
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      • #33
        Originally posted by xenophobe View Post
        What version of Android are you using? Anything ICS or JB is pretty freaking awesome. Older 2.x and 3.x Android wasn't all that great.

        My friend's daughter got an iphone 5s when they first came out... When I got my HTC One, she got all butthurt cause my phone made the iphone look like a piece of shit.
        My S4 does that too.
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        • #34
          Originally posted by leftykingv2 View Post
          My S4 does that too.
          Of course it does. The Galaxy S4 and the HTC One are the two best phones of 2013.
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          • #35
            Originally posted by xenophobe View Post
            Of course it does. The Galaxy S4 and the HTC One are the two best phones of 2013.
            Don't let the Apple fans here you say that.
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            • #36
              As for the Android vs Droid, that's to be expected. Google are chasing Apple, trying to mimic their system as closely as possible in form and functionality to make it easier for iPhoners to swap. Apple sues, Google wins, and Samsung puts out another phone that imitates and improves upon the current iOS version.

              Motorola lost their spot as the communications giant decades ago (around the time the RISC processor fell out of favor), and will forever try to reclaim it. The best they can do now is the Droid OS. However, Motorola still has the same reliability issues they did back in the late 80s. While they've always done right by the 5-0 and the Military, their Joe Public service fell to "Apple" status - "I have it for the name".
              They're relying on a historic brand name to carry them, and all they're doing is pissing on it, much like Gibson is these days.

              I'm still not an Applehead, but there is some degree of merit to keeping Joe Blow from bjorking his purchase. I mean, when you fuck it up and blame the results on the product/service rather than yourself, and the Court agrees, you have to take steps. Winnebagos now clearly state that "Cruise Control" is not "Auto-pilot". McD's now has to tell you that hot coffee is hot.
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              • #37
                I know you guys may have had good luck with your Android based phones....I assure you, you are in a very small percentage. I had them since their first introduction years ago. I had everything from the first Moto Droid up to next to most recent Samsung Galaxy. I pulled the batteries or did a hard reset on a daily basis. My iPhone 4S has literally only been powered a few times since when I first got it....none of those times were software/hardware related....either I had no signal and wanted to save the battery or I just ran it dead.

                Now on top of that, I dealt with literally tens of thousands of users that had high failure rates on the phones in my previous job. My co-workers also had to deal with those people as well. We had internal memos about the high failure rate of Android based phones. Forums where competitor reps as well as ours posted on the Android OS all said the same thing. They were .....flaky......to put it nicely. -Lou
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Newc View Post
                  As for the Android vs Droid, that's to be expected. Google are chasing Apple, trying to mimic their system as closely as possible in form and functionality to make it easier for iPhoners to swap.
                  Nope. Since Android 4.x, it's Apple that is trying to play catch up. Ice Cream Sandwich and Jelly Bean make iOS look dumbed down and too simplified.... and rightly so, it really hasn't changed much in a decade. Right now Google is winning in both features and functionality. Ease of use? For the beginner, the iphone wins. For anyone that's owned an Android for more than a month or two? iphone can't even compare.

                  The only thing iPhone is really winning is OS latency, but on high end Android phones, there's little difference. It's impossible to tell the pixel density difference without a macro lens and direct comparison of those macro shots so Apple's whatever they call it, retina display, is just marketing hype now.
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by LouSiffer View Post
                    I know you guys may have had good luck with your Android based phones....I assure you, you are in a very small percentage.
                    lol.

                    I had them since their first introduction years ago. I had everything from the first Moto Droid up to next to most recent Samsung Galaxy. I pulled the batteries or did a hard reset on a daily basis. My iPhone 4S has literally only been powered a few times since when I first got it....none of those times were software/hardware related....either I had no signal and wanted to save the battery or I just ran it dead.

                    Now on top of that, I dealt with literally tens of thousands of users that had high failure rates on the phones in my previous job. My co-workers also had to deal with those people as well. We had internal memos about the high failure rate of Android based phones. Forums where competitor reps as well as ours posted on the Android OS all said the same thing. They were .....flaky......to put it nicely. -Lou
                    See, the problem with your statements are, there are all sorts of Android phone... quality and hardware are all over the map. And while you may have had to deal with all sorts of issues with Androids, Apple handles most of the support for the iphones, so you're much less likely to have to deal with their product than some random Android.

                    With my HTC One, I can get 2 days of standby including several hours of usage.
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                    • #40
                      I think its time to divulge my secret.
                      I know as much about phones today as i did music in my prime.


                      For gods sake, reboot your phone once a week. We like it once a day. But if its a hassle, you can spare two minutes each week.



                      Many people who buy phones - any phone - blame carrier issues on the phone. And vice versa.
                      And particular to Google, some people blame hardware issues on software issues and vice versa. Google makes software, its then up to each manufacturer to complete the phone. A hundred dollar android isn't going to be as fun as an 800 version.


                      Many people don't know how to take care of their phones. They should get iphones. Smart phones for dummies.
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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by xenophobe View Post
                        lol.



                        See, the problem with your statements are, there are all sorts of Android phone... quality and hardware are all over the map. And while you may have had to deal with all sorts of issues with Androids, Apple handles most of the support for the iphones, so you're much less likely to have to deal with their product than some random Android.

                        With my HTC One, I can get 2 days of standby including several hours of usage.
                        The call centers of the providers handle most of those calls. Apple handles only a small percentage compared to the call centers. Again, this is coming from me.....someone who spent over 10 years in the industry. I am not a fanboi or a sheeple. I just want what works all the time.....every time. If there was an Android based phone that was as reliable as my iPhones have been....trust me, I would own it. Unfortunately, there isn't one. The grass is green, the sky is blue and that's just the way it is. -Lou
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                        • #42
                          Dude
                          my Samsung eternity was better than the original iphone. Except for available apps.

                          And iphone was lacking ever since. Its not a messiah of phones. Its just got hype. Nothing deserving of the hype.

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                          • #43
                            That Samsung is so good you can literally buy them for a few dollars used. That phone was a pure turd.
                            Since you know so much, what exactly does your phone do that mine doesn't?
                            Make calls: Check
                            Email: Check
                            Apps: Check
                            Calender: Check
                            Text: Check.
                            It goes on and on. They do the same thing.

                            The point is that the iPhone is more reliable than any Android based phone out there. Bar none, that can not be argued if you have any logical ability. I know people feel cool bucking the system and trying to be the Lone Wolf, but, it gets old being that way. I just want the shit to work. Plain and simple. Again, unless you have the experience in the field I have to give an unbiased opinion, you really don't need to chirp up. -Lou
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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by LouSiffer View Post
                              I know you guys may have had good luck with your Android based phones....I assure you, you are in a very small percentage.
                              I must be on some kind of golden run then. Because I've had several Android phones from different manufacturers now and have NEVER encountered the issues or had to deal with them the way you've described. My current HTC is two years old now.

                              I am comfortable configuring & optimising them myself though. I wonder if all of the issues with Android phones are down to people fucking with shit they shouldn't. Consumers are largely unfettered idiots, which is why the iPhone is so suitable & popular. Although, my daughter did try to claim her iPhone on warranty after she dunked it. She was pissed off that they wouldn't replace a phone after its owner submerged it - that apparently isn't a product defect
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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by LouSiffer View Post
                                That Samsung is so good you can literally buy them for a few dollars used. That phone was a pure turd.
                                Since you know so much, what exactly does your phone do that mine doesn't?
                                Make calls: Check
                                Email: Check
                                Apps: Check
                                Calender: Check
                                Text: Check.
                                It goes on and on. They do the same thing.

                                The point is that the iPhone is more reliable than any Android based phone out there. Bar none, that can not be argued if you have any logical ability. I know people feel cool bucking the system and trying to be the Lone Wolf, but, it gets old being that way. I just want the shit to work. Plain and simple. Again, unless you have the experience in the field I have to give an unbiased opinion, you really don't need to chirp up. -Lou
                                +!

                                Lou's got it all right here i'm afraid. I used to have a Samsung Galaxy Ace which was good when i got it but after a year or so became so slow that it would take almost five minutes to make a damn phone call. I don't care about being able to customise everything on the phone if it is well-designed enough and perfectly functional to begin with. I don't care to add widgets to my home screen developed by some dude who doesn't know the first thing about UX; i don't want all the useless bloatware (that i can't delete) that comes with anything other than vanilla Android; nor do i want to have to install a launcher that will hog system resources and slow down my phone because the manufacturer's take on Android makes me feel like i'm in Kindergarten (i'm looking at you Samsung). Google's philosophy to open source is a double-edged sword; anyone can do it, so anyone will and plenty of innovations will come out of that but they will be like diamonds in a sea of shit. Apple may have tight reigns on everything but the simple fact of the matter is that this offers focus and consistency in stability and quality. I recently switched to the iPhone 5S and couldn't be happier. I'm no Apple fanboi, in fact some years ago i used to hate Apple's products but i get it now; their software and hardware integration is seamless, which is what makes them so solid, stable and a pleasure to use.

                                Like Lou, i just want shit to work and work well. I'm in the process engineering business and i work with things that don't work all the time and most of my professional time is spent troubleshooting. A colleague of mine (an IT manager) recently said that when looking to buy a phone, tablet or computer, you should always take into account the manufacturer's technical support. If their support is award-winning and known to be great then it probably means their products are shit.
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