A few pistols I recently picked up...

[Catharpin]

I have a G36 and it is very comfortable to carry. It's deceptive because it doesn't look that much skinnier than the regular frame but wow can you feel the difference when carrying concealed, especially IWB.

[Alec Thunder]

Shooting is a lot of fun. It's very zen-like. Concentration and focus, breathing technique, trigger control, etc... Guns, bow and arrow, etc... it's therapeutic.

Yeah... its peaceful!!!

[DRM]

Yeah... its peaceful!!!

It really is. When I was into long range shooting, the mental focus required when calculating wind holds and bullet drop made it an exercise in willpower. I would walk away from each range session feeling refreshed and relaxed.

Contrary to what many people believe, the VAST majority (read: well over 95%) of violent crime committed with a firearm in the US is done with an illegally acquired weapon, and a lot of it is drug or gang related. When considering the amount of gun related deaths, suicides are also a factor for the total count.

The numbers pale in comparison to the daily deaths resulting from medical malpractice or fatal vehicle accidents. It's simply a tool, and while there are people who like to believe that preventing the sale or ownership of a gun will prevent gun related crime, there is no law against murder or gun free zone sign that will stop someone hell bent on taking a life.

Case in point: Paris, France.

Owning a firearm is a big responsibility, but at the end of the day, I'm ultimately responsible (and obligated) for the well being of myself and my family. Not the government, and not some Law Enforcement Officer who's only minutes away when seconds count. I can fight back if given the need, and while I do carry a handgun concealed every day, it's not Plan A if I get into a bind. It's a tool in the toolbox, and it doesn't give me balls. I've been in combat and I've also drawn my handgun to de-escalate two situations, and if I can make it the rest of my life without having to fire that pistol, that'll be a victory. But I still train almost every day so that I can be ready if I ever need to.

[DRM]

And for the sake of contributing to the thread; one of my spare G19s. I love the 19.

[Razor]

DRM, my house gun is a Glock 19. As usual, you have a most excellent taste in firearms.

Alec, if you ever make it to the good ole US of A, you should hit one of us up for a range session. I'll bet you leave with a big smile on your face, and would to do it again. If you're ever close to West Virginia I'll take you shooting at the local public range.

[Alec Thunder]

Wont be in the States for a long long time i guess!!! And if i go... def. not for shooting guns!!! Period... thread closed for me!!! ;-)

[DRM]

Wont be in the States for a long long time i guess!!! And if i go... def. not for shooting guns!!! Period... thread closed for me!!! ;-)

Then don't come and insult something we hold near and dear, not present anything to support your beliefs, and then leave without trying to consider our perspective.

There hasn't been a single problem in my adult life that I haven't solved with the combination of patience and a surgical application of violence. Luck is for amateurs and hope is for the weak.

[Alec Thunder]

Then don't come and insult something we hold near and dear, not present anything to support your beliefs, and then leave without trying to consider our perspective.

There hasn't been a single problem in my adult life that I haven't solved with the combination of patience and a surgical application of violence. Luck is for amateurs and hope is for the weak.

The only thing i wonder about is where the insulting part was/is???

[lepard]

On a serious note Alec, how bad is it really getting over there in Germany with all the refugees coming in ? I keep watching the news in utter disbelief that the German citizens would put up with Merkel allowing all the refugees in.

[Alec Thunder]

Ist not THAT bad Lepard... well.. yet!!! Media blows it up a lot... but there are serious right movements which i am more afraid of! But a gun in the hand of everybody wouldnt help at all! Not in the long run. What would you do if somebody asks you for help! Tell him to go to hell or back to his homecountry... which, in this case is pretty much the same. I dont support the politics of Merkel in this case cause she sais we can "more or less" handle that alone while all the other Countrys in Europe (or a lot of em) deny fugitives to come into their country by building walls and fences. I dont know where it will end... i dont know if letting them in is the right way... i just dont know! Obviously nobody exactly knows what to do!

[Alec Thunder]

But guns wont do the job and wont solve the problem...

[Razor]

But guns wont do the job and wont solve the problem...

That's your opinion. This is not a gun debate thread. It's an I like fucking guns thread. If you don't have anything to contribute or add by all means please let the door hit you on the ass on your way out. When seconds count the police are minutes away. My guns will do the job, and would solve the problem in the event I need to use them. I'm 44 years old and fortunatley I haven't had the need to use them, but they're there if needed. My question only question to you would be if you needed one, and didn't have one, what then would you do?

I also love the fact that you never replied or acknowledged this early on in the thread.

The long and the short of it is to keep ourselves from being made sheep for the slaughter like the Jews were in Nazi Germany...

You remind me of me when I was a small kid and wouldn't try some new type of food because it looked "yucky"...

[DRM]

The only thing i wonder about is where the insulting part was/is???

This is what's known as "context".

Americans and their guns... no offense... but thats something i will never understand!!!

Yeah... its peaceful!!!

Complete with the "no no" finger wag.

It's clear that you look down on gun owners and believe they are inherently evil. Not surprising given during my travels through Asia and Europe, I've always been amazed at how many people believe the problems of the world can be solved by acceptance and empathy.

As for the immigrants, this is a self correcting problem. They'll either stand on their feet and fight back to reclaim their homeland, or they'll die. These people have no interest in assimilating into the modern world and yes, I do have an intimate understanding of how the third world works.

We left a massive void of power in the region when we just left Iraq and tried to make them adopt our modern Democracy. These people don't think like we do and have different values. They don't want to be German citizens; they want to be Syrians in Germany.

Either help them reclaim their homeland, or if they lack the stones to try, let nature run its course.

Not every problem in the world should fall onto the shoulders of NATO.

[Alec Thunder]

[QUOTE=Razor;1641660]
I also love the fact that you never replied or acknowledged this early on in the thread.

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I didnt reply to this because this drawer is always opened in a gun related discussions... the slaughter of the jews... Nazi Germany... you guys really think that guns in the hands of citizens or in that case, Jews, would have prevented the slaughter! Well i know different...

And i never wanted to Insult anybody... i just said that i dont understand american's appreciation for guns. I still dont understand it... i even said explicitly "no offense".

It should be ok to talk about it... it should be ok to do it even in a "We like Guns"-Thread!

Again... no offense! Just my opinion!

[DRM]

Elaborate further on how you know that if the people had the right to defend themselves and fight back it wouldn't have helped stop the genocide of over 11 million innocent people.

A government should never be more powerful than its citizens.