Need more government in your life? California now regulates cow farts!

[VitaminG]

Doxycycline is your friend.



Brother, it's one of my favorite places in the world. Between Pisgah, the Bob Marshall, and Denali, there is so much beauty to experience in America. I've spent many a night in Pisgah around a campfire, sipping Lagavulin under the stars.

The world can be beautiful if we just let ourselves see it.

too true. I have a two hour commute to Brisbane for work, because I enjoy my job & like working in the city, but love living in the country. Quality of life. We spend evenings in the backyard with a bottle of wine, talking & staring at the stars.

Man, you can paint a picture. I haven't tried Lagavulin but from the descriptions, sounds similar to Laphroaig. Will have to check it out

Western North Carolina reminds me a lot of West Virginia. I took a two day float trip on the Nolichucky in 2008 and it was heaven. Only saw three other people in two full days on the water. The solitude and scenery were frickin' awesome.

I just want to live where "Big Brother" says I have to do this, can't do that, can't eat that, and can't drink that. I understand and abide by the 10 Commandments. Thankfully I do. Do I really need a government telling me my cattle are farting too much? Will they stop with cattle? Are our farts to be regulated yet? To me the regulation of cow farts is only for the politicians to say "we did something". The effects of cow farts are miniscule compared to the millions of cubic feed of natural gas, methane, and CH4 leaking from the sea bed along with crude oil in the Santa Barbara channel, but their focus is on cow farts. If I ever see a spotted owl I'm gonna kill the fucker while drinking a Big Gulp from the 7-11!

The CSIRO here found that the original estimate was overstated & rejigged their calculations. The new estimate is down 24% from the previous, equivalent to 12.6 million tonnes of carbon dioxide a year, but it seems that methane from agriculture is still generating 15% of Australia's greenhouse gas emissions. Not nearly as much as the 35% from electricity, but is still not insignificant. BTW, it's cow burps, not farts.

This is all research so that we know what the problem is so that solutions can be developed. From what I've been able to find out, farmers aren't being punished or legislated against for the emissions of their cows. Scientists are trying to develop strategies to reduce the emissions. Dairy & beef cattle are a big industry in this country. The govt isn't going to hurt that export revenue stream by cracking down on farmers over cow flatulence

[Jayster]

Personally I support extra cow farts! I'm working on inventing a special blend of bean feed for livestock and already have federal grants not to make it!!!! God Bless America :P

[VitaminG]

to find Jay's place, look for the green mushroom cloud

[Snoogans]

absolutely, but a ride to where is the question? Gary, both of us better make tracks and fast out of our respective shitholes right away or we're hucklefucked, let's opt for a place where its consistently either weenie shrinking cold and you have to stay inside half the year because it sucks balls outside......

I've got just the place for you. The weather's usually grey and miserable, as are most of the people you're likely to meet. The womenfolk in particular lean towards the fat and profoundly unattractive. As white, heterosexual, english-speaking and employable men, you'd be held in particular contempt by the authorities. On the upside there is a really good pub just up the road!

[Newc]

Hmmm, so the digestive gasses of herbivores is an environmental issue?

Veg-ah-teriahn - Need. more. peas!
Veg-ah-teriahn - Depleting the ozone!


I guess the dumbfucks in the Califorgetit legislature haven't heard, but whether you believe in Evolution or Creationism, they do agree on one point: cows have been farting in fields long before people appeared, so there's really nothing we can do about it now. What, a HEPA filter up a cow's ass?

And what genius tracked a single cow fart in the wild to see it ascend to the ozone layer? You cannot calculate this to prove it, you have to observe it directly because of all of the known AND unknown variables.

[Razor]

Hmmm, so the digestive gasses of herbivores is an environmental issue?

Veg-ah-teriahn - Need. more. peas!
Veg-ah-teriahn - Depleting the ozone!


I guess the dumbfucks in the Califorgetit legislature haven't heard, but whether you believe in Evolution or Creationism, they do agree on one point: cows have been farting in fields long before people appeared, so there's really nothing we can do about it now. What, a HEPA filter up a cow's ass?

And what genius tracked a single cow fart in the wild to see it ascend to the ozone layer? You cannot calculate this to prove it, you have to observe it directly because of all of the known AND unknown variables.

Didn't you get the memo? Australia has already done the study. They've formulated the theory, and proven it to hear them talk about it. They know those damn cows are fucking up the enviroment way more than nature is....

[atomic charvel guy]

Hmmm, so the digestive gasses of herbivores is an environmental issue?

Veg-ah-teriahn - Need. more. peas!
Veg-ah-teriahn - Depleting the ozone!


I guess the dumbfucks in the Califorgetit legislature haven't heard, but whether you believe in Evolution or Creationism, they do agree on one point: cows have been farting in fields long before people appeared, so there's really nothing we can do about it now. What, a HEPA filter up a cow's ass?

And what genius tracked a single cow fart in the wild to see it ascend to the ozone layer? You cannot calculate this to prove it, you have to observe it directly because of all of the known AND unknown variables.

one things for sure, and thats the fact that common sense in a Creation Museum does indeed evaporate 4 trillion times quicker than the most grisly cow fart

[Razor]

one things for sure, and thats the fact that common sense in a Creation Museum does indeed evaporate 4 trillion times quicker than the most grisly cow fart

Ok, so we're going to bring the whether or not you believe the Bible/Creation into this?

[rjohnstone]

Move to AZ.
We have constitutional carry... weed is legal for medical purposes (recreational is on the ballot in Nov), no real threat from natural disasters, housing is reasonably priced, and you can go from skiing in the mountains to sunbathing on a lake in a matter of 1 1/2 hour drive.
A lot of Californians are making their way here, but we are fighting their desire to bring the Commiefornia laws with them.

My favorite place in the whole world though is Pacific Grove, California.
I want to retire there if it doesn't fall off into the ocean first. (And their asinine gun laws are changed)

[VitaminG]

I guess the dumbfucks in the Califorgetit legislature haven't heard, but whether you believe in Evolution or Creationism, they do agree on one point: cows have been farting in fields long before people appeared, so there's really nothing we can do about it now. What, a HEPA filter up a cow's ass?

And what genius tracked a single cow fart in the wild to see it ascend to the ozone layer? You cannot calculate this to prove it, you have to observe it directly because of all of the known AND unknown variables.

Ah, so you've looked into their methodology? Reading can make one's head hurt, but it can help to understand how the scientists gathered their data.

Cow's may have been farting since they were dropped on the planet by our alien overlords, but human farming of cows means there are a helluva lot more of them here to produce gas now.

Didn't you get the memo? Australia has already done the study. They've formulated the theory, and proven it to hear them talk about it. They know those damn cows are fucking up the enviroment way more than nature is....

I don't believe it was a concerted effort by the whole country. Nobody asked me to help out. But a team of scientists have done the study. They're not the sole study and I don't know if their results were even considered by US legislators. Scientists are looking into the issue in other countries. I just looked up the outcome of the Australian study since someone else brought it up. Since we're the test bed for NWO/Illuminati bullshit agenda. Or something

But you know those scientists, looking at facts & figures. They don't give enough credence to feels and notions

one things for sure, and thats the fact that common sense in a Creation Museum does indeed evaporate 4 trillion times quicker than the most grisly cow fart

it would have to exist before it can evaporate

[Razor]

Ah, so you've looked into their methodology? Reading can make one's head hurt, but it can help to understand how the scientists gathered their data.

Cow's may have been farting since they were dropped on the planet by our alien overlords, but human farming of cows means there are a helluva lot more of them here to produce gas now.



I don't believe it was a concerted effort by the whole country. Nobody asked me to help out. But a team of scientists have done the study. They're not the sole study and I don't know if their results were even considered by US legislators. Scientists are looking into the issue in other countries. I just looked up the outcome of the Australian study since someone else brought it up. Since we're the test bed for NWO/Illuminati bullshit agenda. Or something

But you know those scientists, looking at facts & figures. They don't give enough credence to feels and notions



it would have to exist before it can evaporate

Dude, you're taking this a little too personal. I think regulating cow farts is nothing but stupid government over reach. It would be just as easy to find a scientist who qualifies this as it would be to find one who refutes it. Science and statistics have always been, and will always be manipulated to fit the agenda of whomever and whatever. I treat scientists and statisticians on the same level as preachers and lawyers which is just a tad higher than mud.

I wonder how many cow farts this natural gas leak in California equalled to? What is the Californian government really focusing on? What they can control, or what they want to control? I still say they're trying to build a vegan society by regulating cow farts, but that's just my opinion.

http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-35659947

I'm having fun with the absurdity of this more than anything. Nothing the California government does surprises me anymore. Regulating cow farts, who'da thunk it? Interesting Australian article below by the way.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-12-14/impact-of-cattle-on-methane-emissions-downgraded/7027088

[atomic charvel guy]

it would have to exist before it can evaporate[/QUOTE]

woops, holiest of all smokers you're right, my bad, good call sir

[Newc]

Ah, so you've looked into their methodology? Reading can make one's head hurt, but it can help to understand how the scientists gathered their data.

Science and statistics have always been, and will always be manipulated to fit the agenda of whomever and whatever.

Given the fact that "Science" makes "new discoveries" every day, and must refine, edit, or completely rewrite what they previously stated on any given subject based on data they were not aware of the previous go-round, I'd say unless someone tracked even a warehoused herd's fart cloud all the way up to the ozone layer, then it's just a theory, and not fact, and we should act on facts, not theories.

[Nightbat]

The environment is big business

You won't make any money or receive subsidies telling the higher ups the planet is doing fine
You just mention there may be a larger methane pollution than was already established (by scientific means), but need more funds to 'thoroughly' study the effects and watch the $$$ pour in

[VitaminG]

Dude, you're taking this a little too personal. I think regulating cow farts is nothing but stupid government over reach. It would be just as easy to find a scientist who qualifies this as it would be to find one who refutes it. Science and statistics have always been, and will always be manipulated to fit the agenda of whomever and whatever. I treat scientists and statisticians on the same level as preachers and lawyers which is just a tad higher than mud.

I wonder how many cow farts this natural gas leak in California equalled to? What is the Californian government really focusing on? What they can control, or what they want to control? I still say they're trying to build a vegan society by regulating cow farts, but that's just my opinion.

http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-35659947

I'm having fun with the absurdity of this more than anything. Nothing the California government does surprises me anymore. Regulating cow farts, who'da thunk it? Interesting Australian article below by the way.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-12-1...graded/7027088

I'm not taking any of this personally. Assume that anything I write has tongue planted in cheek. Those links were some interesting reading. The ABC news article talks about some of the volumes they're looking at. As I said before, emissions aren't as high as coal production, but still pretty significant. But the Australian govt doesn't appear to be legislating cow farts, despite the earlier assertion that "Australia did this too". Scientists are studying ways that emissions might be reduced, the govt isn't punishing farmers for having farty cows

Given the fact that "Science" makes "new discoveries" every day, and must refine, edit, or completely rewrite what they previously stated on any given subject based on data they were not aware of the previous go-round, I'd say unless someone tracked even a warehoused herd's fart cloud all the way up to the ozone layer, then it's just a theory, and not fact, and we should act on facts, not theories.

Gravity is also a theory. Feel free to ignore it.

Read the abc.net.au article that Razor linked. They tracked emissions from a thousand cows in beef & dairy industries (so on different diets) and in a range of climate zones to consider environmental factors. They found there wasn't a lot of difference considering all those factors. But their test sample was a bit more than following one cow fart into the atmosphere