Too old to start a band?

[toejam]

for god sakes people are actually lumping Nirvana into metal.

Scott Ian has even called Nirvana metal. I thought he was insane.

[toejam]

You think I want to put ultraviolet paint all over myself and be the guitar player that solos over a DJ at a Rave. Yet, I've done it.

Pics and video?

[VitaminG]

Tool = hard rock/ metal? guess I'm old cause there is no fucking way those guys fit into the hard rock or metal scene's I grew up in... they came in with the alternative & grunge groups that are being called metal today, for god sakes people are actually lumping Nirvana into metal. Plz kill me now.

The hard rock & metal scenes need purging.

That's your takeaway from this whole conversation? Tool are a rock band, they fall on the heavier end of the spectrum. They're not metal but they're heavier than Nirvana, Pearl Jam, etc. But maybe you prefer hard rock of the Poison/Enuff Z'nuff persuasion?

But whatever. Dude wants to start a band, complains that no one else wants to start a band. His city is lame and everyone else is a poser douchebag playing country or turntables. But wait, here are some guys who want to start a band. But the stuff that they want to play is Drop C style (whatever the hell that is) and the Tool-guy requires a different skillset. And besides, it's apparently retarded mathcore. But rather than spend some time in the shed playing with others and potentially getting some experience, make connections, get into any kind of scene & meet some people who might eventually help you put together the gig that you actually want, all of these guys that actually want to start a band are dismissed for one excuse or another. But while dude with no band or gigging experience is willing to take any music-related job (apart from all of the aforementioned because of reasons), these offers weren't jobs. They were garage bands. If you don't want to offer inexperienced, untested & unproven Dude a JOB in your existing band, don't bother calling

[pianoguyy]

That's your takeaway from this whole conversation? Tool are a rock band, they fall on the heavier end of the spectrum. They're not metal but they're heavier than Nirvana, Pearl Jam, etc. But maybe you prefer hard rock of the Poison/Enuff Z'nuff persuasion?

But whatever. Dude wants to start a band, complains that no one else wants to start a band. His city is lame and everyone else is a poser douchebag playing country or turntables. But wait, here are some guys who want to start a band. But the stuff that they want to play is Drop C style (whatever the hell that is) and the Tool-guy requires a different skillset. And besides, it's apparently retarded mathcore. But rather than spend some time in the shed playing with others and potentially getting some experience, make connections, get into any kind of scene & meet some people who might eventually help you put together the gig that you actually want, all of these guys that actually want to start a band are dismissed for one excuse or another. But while dude with no band or gigging experience is willing to take any music-related job (apart from all of the aforementioned because of reasons), these offers weren't jobs. They were garage bands. If you don't want to offer inexperienced, untested & unproven Dude a JOB in your existing band, don't bother calling

Everything he said, PLUS...

No one is going to offer you a job because you've never had a job.

[AgentX]

That's your takeaway from this whole conversation? Tool are a rock band, they fall on the heavier end of the spectrum. They're not metal but they're heavier than Nirvana, Pearl Jam, etc. But maybe you prefer hard rock of the Poison/Enuff Z'nuff persuasion?

But whatever. Dude wants to start a band, complains that no one else wants to start a band. His city is lame and everyone else is a poser douchebag playing country or turntables. But wait, here are some guys who want to start a band. But the stuff that they want to play is Drop C style (whatever the hell that is) and the Tool-guy requires a different skillset. And besides, it's apparently retarded mathcore. But rather than spend some time in the shed playing with others and potentially getting some experience, make connections, get into any kind of scene & meet some people who might eventually help you put together the gig that you actually want, all of these guys that actually want to start a band are dismissed for one excuse or another. But while dude with no band or gigging experience is willing to take any music-related job (apart from all of the aforementioned because of reasons), these offers weren't jobs. They were garage bands. If you don't want to offer inexperienced, untested & unproven Dude a JOB in your existing band, don't bother calling

oh go suck a dick

[AgentX]

I'm done. No more posts to this forum for me. Don't worry, I "won't let the door hit me on the way out".

[kamanda]

Ahhhh no c'mon, I've been incesting my time into this!

Seriously keep us updated its too good. And LETS HERE SOME DEMOS

Edit: investing* oops

[toejam]

I think I just peed a little.

[jgcable]

I'll be 27 this January. I've been playing guitar since age 12 and have never been in band before, and never gigged. But I still have my dreams of making it. However, I just feel I'm too old at this point. If you look back at all the big bands history, like GNR, Metallica, VH, etc... They were all 18,19,20 ,21 years old when they formed their bands. I think I missed my window. I'll be too old to be marketable by the time I get the ball rolling. I can't think of anyone who made it later in life. At least not anyone who played a "youthful" style of music. What do you guys think?

note: Please don't start the "well, it depends on what you mean by 'making it'" crap. I think you all know full well what 99.99999% of people mean when they say "make it". (i.e. be successful, become a pro act, sell lots of records, tour internationally, have your songs on the radio, etc...) or at least gain some level of notoriety etc...

Once you feel out of touch with your target audience or the genre of music you are playing.. its too late.

[AgentX]

I just read through the whole thread. It's pathetic... just pathetic. Godamnit, I'm sorry guys. Severe mental depression, and all that kind of shit is what I deal with daily. Not excusing my behavior, just stating fact. Sorry.

[Luca1973]

Leave the guitar aside, you must work on yourself for something much more important than music.

[pianoguyy]

Sometimes... you just gotta blow your brains out.

I offered that as a solution a week ago.

[AgentX]

I offered that as a solution a week ago.

You're absolutely right.

[toejam]

I'm done. No more posts to this forum for me. Don't worry, I "won't let the door hit me on the way out".

So you're a liar, too?

Welcome back in through the out door.

[markD]

They were startups for garage bands basically.

Not jumping your shit in the least, but I am curious about the above....

How do you think bands start? I mean, they have to start somewhere. From what I have gathered from your original post, you have not yet played in a band. So, not having a "history" as a musician, what is your expectation for where your band will start up?

I have been doing this since 1986. All through my early years and 20's, bands tended to start in garages or warehouses. Now that I am on my mid 40s, experienced, and known in my musical community the bands I work with tend to have private rehearsal studios. It's a different ball game because of playing with a higher caliber musician. But, you aren't there yet. Where should a band start, if not a garage?

I know you have lofty goals - and that's a good thing.....but, you have to actually get started to make those goals happen.