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Re: Sabbath question...
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That's correct. Ray Gillen replaced Glenn Hughes (who was really messed up) a few gigs into the Seventh Star tour and basically brought the house down. After the tour, they went to a studio in the Caribbean somewhere to work on the Eternal Idol album, but the (basically impromptu) band fell apart around Iommi and Gillen, and after many delays Gillen figured that Sabbath had no future and quit. Iommi then hired Tony Martin and had him replace Gillen's already recorded vocals.
I think that Gillen's tracks were wiped, but I have a bootleg of a rough album mix with Gillen's vocals. He had a slightly purer voice than Martin, but I think Martin actually fit the Sabbath style better--even though he was singing Gillen's melodies and lyrics on that album.
As far as bootlegs with Gillen, there is also an A+ radio broadcast recording of the San Antonio
show on the Seventh Star tour that shows what Gillen was really capable of. He sang both the Dio and Ozzy material really well. I haven't listened to either boot in awhile, and I'm not even sure where I put them when we last moved. But they are both worth having.
Another Sabbath bootleg worth getting is the so-called "8th Star" sessions that Iommi did in 1996 with Glenn Hughes and Dave Holland for a projected Iommi solo album. This material is almost entirely different (and MUCH better) than the stuff that ended up on the "Iommi" album a couple of years ago. More melodic, not as heavy, but much stronger songwriting from Iommi and Hughes. Latest word is that Iommi is going to officially release this material, but I don't know when, or if there is more material than on the 8th Star boot, which is pretty short.
Originally posted by Hyperfuzz:
I think the original tracks for Eternal Idol were recorded with him and then Martin re-did them....or something like that. I don't remember the exact story.
I think the original tracks for Eternal Idol were recorded with him and then Martin re-did them....or something like that. I don't remember the exact story.
I think that Gillen's tracks were wiped, but I have a bootleg of a rough album mix with Gillen's vocals. He had a slightly purer voice than Martin, but I think Martin actually fit the Sabbath style better--even though he was singing Gillen's melodies and lyrics on that album.
As far as bootlegs with Gillen, there is also an A+ radio broadcast recording of the San Antonio
show on the Seventh Star tour that shows what Gillen was really capable of. He sang both the Dio and Ozzy material really well. I haven't listened to either boot in awhile, and I'm not even sure where I put them when we last moved. But they are both worth having.
Another Sabbath bootleg worth getting is the so-called "8th Star" sessions that Iommi did in 1996 with Glenn Hughes and Dave Holland for a projected Iommi solo album. This material is almost entirely different (and MUCH better) than the stuff that ended up on the "Iommi" album a couple of years ago. More melodic, not as heavy, but much stronger songwriting from Iommi and Hughes. Latest word is that Iommi is going to officially release this material, but I don't know when, or if there is more material than on the 8th Star boot, which is pretty short.
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