Man, Protools is such a pain in the ass.

[Trypp Powell]

Re: Man, Protools is such a pain in the ass.

I am pretty well convinced that the cracked versions do not work as well or sound as good as the original programs. I have a number of plug-ins that I have purchased for Pro Tools (Sansamp PSA-1, Waves Bundle, etc.) and a friend of mine who purchased a disc with cracks of the same programs on it has all types of problems. We have identical setups except for my software being the authentic version, and on a few of those programs we can tell a difference.

[Newc]

Re: Man, Protools is such a pain in the ass.

Originally posted by Buck Naked II:
I use Nuendo, I like it better than ProTools. Regardless, this is what you pay a professional for, guys. A pro doesn't do things like lose 1/2 a nights work. He has procedures for doing things correctly and efficiently. If your work is important, it's worth paying someone to do it right, isn't it?

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yeah, but it's always better to learn it and do it yourself to cut the studio charges out completely. You also don't run into a stuck-up studio guy who tells you how you will sound on "his" recordings, because he's "got a reputation to protect" and wants his "signature sound" on your recordings [img]graemlins/bs.gif[/img]

I went through that shit when I had a band - the other guys were gung-ho about going into a real studio until the guy played back some of the recent bands he'd recorded - they all had the exact same drum and guitar tones. I was not going to settle for sounding like some fuckhead in another band - I have MY sound and MY sound will go to disc, not "the engineer's sound". I told them that would happen before we got there, and they saw it with their own eyes, and heard the guy tell them he wanted all the recordings he did to have HIS sound, not the band's.
He had a drum kit bolted to the floor and an Ibenhad and a Marshall that was permanently wired up - no changes could have been made at all, because he wanted everything to sound "consistent" (his words). I told the others that he's a lazy shit who thinks he's more important then we are, and we're better off doing it ourselves at home on a digital 12-track because we will maintain our sound, which means we maintain our identity in a sea of sound-alikes.

Newc

[Ninja Guitar]

Re: Man, Protools is such a pain in the ass.

Originally posted by Newc:
I went through that shit when I had a band - the other guys were gung-ho about going into a real studio until the guy played back some of the recent bands he'd recorded - they all had the exact same drum and guitar tones. I was not going to settle for sounding like some fuckhead in another band - I have MY sound and MY sound will go to disc, not "the engineer's sound". I told them that would happen before we got there, and they saw it with their own eyes, and heard the guy tell them he wanted all the recordings he did to have HIS sound, not the band's.
He had a drum kit bolted to the floor and an Ibenhad and a Marshall that was permanently wired up - no changes could have been made at all, because he wanted everything to sound "consistent" (his words). I told the others that he's a lazy shit who thinks he's more important then we are, and we're better off doing it ourselves at home on a digital 12-track because we will maintain our sound, which means we maintain our identity in a sea of sound-alikes.

Newc

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Being a sound engineer/studio student, let me be first to say that guy is one fuckin idiot. A real studio guru works with the band and/or producer to get the sound they want, and as best as he possibly can. There're many different ways a guitar cab can be miced, many different microphones that can capture a cymbals sound, many different reverb and delay units, etc. No real studio I know of charges $50-$80 an hour so ever recording made there can sound the same.

[ May 11, 2004, 07:55 AM: Message edited by: Ninja Guitar ]

[Guest]

Re: Man, Protools is such a pain in the ass.

ProTools is a piece of cake... I've used it for well over a year now and it's the best by far I've tried and I've tried several. I'm the guy that hates taking days, weeks, months to learn something, I just don't have the time for it. I've got a Digi001 and a shitload of "LEGAL" plugs, waves, Bomb Factory, etc and it's the easiest system to use with the best results.

As for losing data? Shouldn't ever happen, there are hundreds of undo's as Newc stated and plus, you should always have the system backing up data every 2 minutes at least, when you save a file, or track etc, make sure to save as and rename it, song_1, song_2, song_1_mixed, etc etc. Always backup or save a file frequently, I don't care if it's ProTools or Word, save your work frequently...

Don't ditch the ProTools, learn how to use it efficiently... [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

Pat

[Ninja Guitar]

Re: Man, Protools is such a pain in the ass.

You're one of the lucky ones. [img]graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

When I started using protools 95% of my time with the damn thing was spend trouble shooting. It really tested my patience. But, I stuck with it, and at the end of the class I had a CD with a really wierd, awesome, and funny as hell death metal tune. It sucks, but I did it, so it rules! [img]graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Maybe I'll post it on here soon, then you all can hear my fuckin awesome drum programming. [img]graemlins/images/icons/wink.gif[/img]