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    The first story:

    When I got my Jackson, I were not very satisfied with my pickups so I went to install some actives. I have asked my acquaintance to help me. He said yes. A couple of weeks before that, I have replaced my volume pot because the one that came with the guitar was screwed. I had a gas soldering iron, which heated up to 650°C, and the zinc wire was melting like hell, so the solder was a bit shitty.
    (This story will be included a little later, just keep reading).


    Okay, two years ago we got a Music Centre, which was a blessing for some of us.
    The guy that works there first seemed to be a nice guy to deal with. Okay, I said to me, he should be okay.

    The thing started when I bought my Jackson guitar. Since then he is so jealous about it, that he keeps mentioning it and slamming it every time we see each other. Jackson that and Jackson this ... Okay, I have shut up his mouth by saying, that he is playing a plain Ibanez GRX70, which is somehow of a poor quality AFAIK.
    He stopped talking about it for a week, then he goes again. I was starting to ignore this guy and talking about things that needed to be discussed and finally came across the thought, that there are no friendships in sales and trades.

    I was trying to be nice at all time, and everyone that came to the store had a pleasant chat with me, even though we have not met before.
    Then the things started. One guy came into the store about two weeks ago, saying that his pot in his Telecaster is a bit "scratchy". The guy in Music Centre (let's call him "BB" why these are his initials) told him to leave the guitar there in the guitar centre, and he will send it 150 miles away just to replace the pot! I have told the guy that brought the guitar, that I can replace his pot for free, he only had to pay for the pot. I was also having brand new 500kOhms pot at the home, and it would took max. 10 minutes to do the job. BB convinced him to send the guitar to the customer support (which has taken ONE WHOLE week to replace that damn pot!), because it was under the warranty. He told me that replaced pots can be tracked. Yeah, sure.

    I also visited him today, and this was a drop over the edge. One boy came into the store (BB doesn't like to deal with amateurs that are buying their first guitars) and brought the guitar that he bought a week ago, saying that it plays bad. What I have found out is that intonation was bad. Hey, it happens, I said. Guitars that are brought directly from the store usually need some tweaks. BB again convinced the buyer that it is nonsense to simply take a screwdriver and 30 minutes of free time to set the intonation. That is why the customer support is. The other excuse was that the guitar is under the warranty. Okay, does the warranty void if you set your intonation? I guess not.
    For the big finale the boy was asking about some cheapo effect processor for guitar. Then BB started to philosophize about the reverb that the boy has it on his amp. BB asked him if his amplifier does have any built-in effects. He answered with no. Then BB asked if his amp has reverb. The boy said yes, and BB said that his amp actually has the effects on it. Then I jumped it by slamming BB with informations, that reverb is usually a tank with springs, placed in the amplifier and therefore it is not the same thing as distortion, chorus, modelers, ... And I added that this (reverb) is the feature that almost every amp has. Then BB was arguing with me, that I am not concrete about my statement. There are amps that don't have reverb. I said, there truly are some without it, but I have stated that almost every amp has it.

    [reaching the limits]

    When the boy left I told BB not to manipulate with customers, because he will not get any profit out of them, if the guitar is under warranty and goes to the customer support centre. The only subject, that would earn money in the last place, would be the customer support centre.
    Then he exploded and started saying about my laughing when someone gets a guitar to him and ask for helps. And I said this is because he is a complete jerk and amateur and always tries to make fun of everyone, especially me. I am a little overweight (~40 pounds too much, which is not a big deal really) and this is so fucking disturbing to him. But then, oh yes, then there was fire. He has written his own destiny by saying that he has some informations about my "guitar service" abilities. He told me about my solder that was like shit. Oh man, that blew me off, I grabbed my stuff, turned on a car and left the shop. The only thing that I have said is that some people should be more consistent, and that pretty much summed everything up.

    I will visit the local GC only when necessary from this day. [img]images/icons/mad.gif[/img]

    P.S.: I feel the need to tell this to somebody ...

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    Arrogant prick in local GC
    <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Only one? [img]graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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    • #3
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      [img]graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] Funny.
      Tarbaby Fraser.

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      • #4
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        Originally posted by TEKKY:
        You're looking for sympathy? Sorry, but the way it sounds is that you're hanging out in this shop and harassing this guy when he's trying to make a living. For that I don't think you'll get any sympathy.

        Set aside his methods and practices and put yourself in his shoes. Do you want someone standing over your shoulder second-guessing you while you're at work?
        <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">This guy is not poor, and he does a lot more for living than selling musical stuff. This guy gains a lot more money than the majority of employed people on this board (I assume).
        And I know the economical "goal of profit", since I am very good at economics. But his trolling is not making money to him. If he send the guitar to someone else, that does this work the same as someone local can do, then the profit goes to that guy, not to the salesman.

        It is more of a mediation than gaining money. When it is about money, I keep my mouth shut, because that is his economical purpose. But lying to people and offending them free of charge, that is really stupid.

        He was actually telling people that BC Rich finish called Boris is a graphic (he claims it was named after him) that BC Rich made for him because they (BCR) owed him some money. In the end it turned out that me & my friends were taking some documentation about Boris Karloff and BC Rich rope to him. And I can asure you, he blushed.

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        • #5
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          I am with Tekky. Sorry to say this but reading your story seems like you also tried to be a smartass and talk bad about everything he said.
          Sure it's not ok from him to give bad advice as a salesperson but neither is it ok for you to try to make him look bad in front of his customers.

          If i had a store or would work in a store and there would be someone like you trying to make me look bad in front of the people that earn myself the money i need to make a living i also would try to get him the fuck out of the store.

          And it's simply untrue that almost every amp has reverb. There are enough out there without reverb.

          Sorry i don't want to attack you, it's just that i think it's also your fault for being in that situation.

          Flo
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          Thrash/Death-Metal from Germany

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          • #6
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            I think you should all meet him ...

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            • #7
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              If he is using a translating program, we may not be getting an accurate read. If what he is saying is the straight poop, I agree with me. I've been on both sides.
              I am a true ass set to this board.

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              • #8
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                Are you trying to tell me that he works in the music store as fun? I can think of better things to do with my free time.

                But either way, he's there doing business. Continuing to be a buttinsky when he's doing so is the quickest way to get yourself banned from the shop.

                Hell, I can't stand some of the chuckleheads that work at the Guitar Center here in Chicago, but once in a blue moon I find myself in need of their services. (not specifically the salespeople, moreso the counter help who actually listen to what I'm saying and even that is a rarity) So I tend not to down-talk them so I don't burn bridges.
                Occupy JCF

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                • #9
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                  Unless I read this wrong you said yourself that your soldering job was shitty. What's the big deal, you screwed it up and someone called you on it. What lies was he spreading? If he wasn't authorized to make repairs and did something he would have voided the warranty and then if something went wrong then the customer would be screwed. Sounds like we are missing parts of the story.
                  http://www.jacknapalm.com/

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                  • #10
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                    Originally posted by Jack Napalm:
                    Unless I read this wrong you said yourself that your soldering job was shitty. What's the big deal, you screwed it up and someone called you on it. What lies was he spreading? If he wasn't authorized to make repairs and did something he would have voided the warranty and then if something went wrong then the customer would be screwed. Sounds like we are missing parts of the story.
                    <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Great point Jack.
                    Occupy JCF

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                    • #11
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                      This hits a sore spot with me. At work employees like to come and hang in the office before and during breaks and B.S.. Thats fine if I nothing going on, but when I'm doing payroll, working with buyers or doing what I need to get done, I don't need the extra company. The distraction is a pain in the ass because if I F-up it can be costly. Interfearing with someone at their job is not a ok thing. Thats like if you are in the middle of a gig, then some dude asks questions about your guitar. There is a right place and time to do things and when someone is doing their job, thats not it! Hang somewhere else.
                      ...that taste like tart, lemon yogart

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                      • #12
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                        Immortal, as I read you saga I kept on waiting for the part where this guy does something terrible.

                        All I read was you butting in where you had no business.

                        You lost me when you interfered with the guy wanting his pot fixed. Clearly BB is not confident with a soldering iron so he sent it to someone that was. From your description of your soldering work I think the customer made a wise choice not entrusting his new prize to your gas powered beast.

                        Another thing to consider is that he has been employed there for a number of years so clearly he is performing good enough to keep his job.

                        Oh, and almost every amp does NOT have reverb. Probably half do. I've had a LOT of different amps of the years and I'd say that less than half of mine have had reverb. I currently have five guitar amps (8 if you count a pair of smokeys and a pignose [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img] )- only 2 of my amps right now have reverb. Plus, most amp reverbs suck ass.
                        I want REAL change. I want dead bodies littering the capitol.

                        - Newc

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                        • #13
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                          I don't think it's funny, because this guy was trying to offend me in any way.

                          I thought at least someone will show up with some sympathy.

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                          • #14
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                            I visited a music store many times. I got to be friends with the owner and he let me stay longer than a customer should. I learned one thing. Store owners and employees do not like to be "assisted" by customers when they are with another customer. The trick to hanging out is to be as unobtrusive as possible.
                            I am a true ass set to this board.

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                            • #15
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                              Sounds like the guy did offer to send it back to the manufacturer to have the pot replaced. That is above the call of duty and above the store's obligation.

                              If you ran a store for a while, you would understand some of the things people do. After spending hours and hours fixing simple warranty repairs for the manufacturers, you will start to send things back.

                              For the record, Reverb is an effect.

                              Matt

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