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[Emthrax]

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Hell, I couldn't think of better company. [img]/images/graemlins/headbang.gif[/img]

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Awwwww. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[zeegler]

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I can't prove the easter bunny doesn't exist either! [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] I hope he does, cuz I want some chocolate fucking eggs!!

[zeegler]

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Christians seem to deal with life's ups and downs better than seculars though, at least my experience tells me this.

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That's actually hilarious!! [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

[lerxstcat]

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Christians seem to deal with life's ups and downs better than seculars though, at least my experience tells me this.

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That's actually hilarious!! [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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You may find it funny, but it's true. How many of those who go shoot up their former workplace or school are Christians? Christians go and pray instead of shooting everyone who pissed them off.

[RacerX]

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That's a big difference and worth mentioning. As for common knowledge, if you haven't read it yourself then you don't really know if it's nonsense or not. I think Ron is saying that if you're drawing conclusions based on something you haven't even read firsthand, what is your opinion based on? The opinions of others? Did THEY read the Bible? How far back, second-third-fourth hand, do the opinions go before you find someone who's even read the book and knows what it says?

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Thanks for the backup, Rich. Did you see how zeegs got all sputtering and angry? Hahahaha! The Bible is the most misquoted and misinterpreted book ever.

[zeegler]

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Christians seem to deal with life's ups and downs better than seculars though, at least my experience tells me this.

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That's actually hilarious!! [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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You may find it funny, but it's true. How many of those who go shoot up their former workplace or school are Christians? Christians go and pray instead of shooting everyone who pissed them off.


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Still funny as hell. By the way, so is your sig. Israel isn't even a real country. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

[zeegler]

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That's a big difference and worth mentioning. As for common knowledge, if you haven't read it yourself then you don't really know if it's nonsense or not. I think Ron is saying that if you're drawing conclusions based on something you haven't even read firsthand, what is your opinion based on? The opinions of others? Did THEY read the Bible? How far back, second-third-fourth hand, do the opinions go before you find someone who's even read the book and knows what it says?

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Thanks for the backup, Rich. Did you see how zeegs got all sputtering and angry? Hahahaha! The Bible is the most misquoted and misinterpreted book ever.

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Sputtering and angry? Not likely. You guys are the ones who get your sphincters all clenched when someone starts pointing out how asinine your silly beliefs are. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] Get over it. It's fiction!

[lerxstcat]

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Christians seem to deal with life's ups and downs better than seculars though, at least my experience tells me this.

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That's actually hilarious!! [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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You may find it funny, but it's true. How many of those who go shoot up their former workplace or school are Christians? Christians go and pray instead of shooting everyone who pissed them off.


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Still funny as hell. By the way, so is your sig. Israel isn't even a real country. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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Coming from a Canadian that's funny! Israel would annihilate your country in a military conflict - but oh yeah! You'd just hide behind the US which would protect you. Your country is widely considered the northern suburb of the US, so you might not want to cast stones aty other countries.

And BTW, that stone-casting thing - in the Bible, if you actually read it! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] Meanwhile, rock on, 'burb dude! [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

[Emthrax]

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Canada Rocks. [img]/images/graemlins/headbang.gif[/img]
They have a kickass Air Force, btw. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

[horns666]

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OK here goes..for my Christian friends....put on your seat belts and grab some popcorn for the ride. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

"You may find it funny, but it's true. How many of those who go shoot up their former workplace or school are Christians? Christians go and pray instead of shooting everyone who pissed them off."

hmmm..Some jail inmate stats may differ with that..

it's not "religion" that keeps a person in check...well sometimes it is..This is clearly an individual (person to person) basis..

There are guys like me who have anti-christian beliefs and morals that can and do practice self control and tolerance of others without the grace of God...much more than alot of Christians that I know ...that is a fact..I have a couple in my personal life that it is their #1 quest in life to convert me..including Val's mother.

It's like trying to explain being black to a white guy..same analogy..you need to be black to really know what it's like...that's the botton line.

You got devil worshipping mongeloids that are just as bad or worse than the right hand path retards or any goofy assed fundamentalist..such as my intolerant mother-in-law...who has the morals of a cockroach....but insist that I change...change what...I'm a good fucking guy that takes care of her duaghter and grandchild like nobody's biz...but that doesn't rate with her I guess....maybe I should convert to Christianity..drink like her husband did and beat her...I guess that's better??.. [img]/images/graemlins/scratchhead.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/scratchhead.gif[/img]

Yeah, I told her that...she "prays" for me..I told her once.."what, you pray that something bad enough happens to me so that I fall to my knees and ask God for forgiveness?????"..That is called "bargain basement anger"...She responded with a fucking "smile"..in front of my wife and my whole family..she sheepishly smiled..like I caught her with her pants down..ewwww, that's a terrible thought. [img]/images/graemlins/sick.gif[/img]

Interpretations of the bible..jeez don't get me started on that one..oops, Too Late! [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Christians have been twisting and manipulating that kook since it's existence to fit their needs..The book it'self in not complete anywhoo...it's just a collection of books that MEN has picked and choosed what was excepted as Bible and some very profound books that were ommited because of blatant prejudice..and some books written by Christ himself was an immediate threat to the Church..what a bunch of BS!! [img]/images/graemlins/brow.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/bs.gif[/img]

Like I said..It was mandatory for me to read that book in 12 years of Catholic school..well, private school wasn't a option in my town ..even back then..

Now, I am THE only one I know that reads the bible as a "book" of stories with faith and now without faith nor bias...especially in my "soul searching" days..I began to see clearly how that book applies to my personal life, the world in general and man..it was at this time I was confirmed that it just very old stories given to William Shakespear to make it as eloquent as could be..stories of morality that perceived what was in the best interest of man..

some of it applies to the modern world..some of it don't...that is what this whole gay marrigae thing is about and women prohibitted from clergy...but that will change..eventually.

I still read the Bible..I read it without the Christian Googles and "logic" instead of faith..Now, I seem to discover something new, or revealing that contradicts the stories itself..Exodus is awesome example..The book of Noah/ and Job is a great example of how see the ideology of God..

I'm not a cult leader nor want to be ..I'm not that book smart..nor care to be, I made it this far being a moron..You don't need to be a rocket scientist to ask the questions that I do...any person of average intelligence with a open mind can ask the same questions ..and answer them with simple logic.

Very Simple..

Who is God...per the book ..he is "The Creator"..

who is man...God's favorite invention ...made in his own likeness..

What is Free will....the ability to choose good or evil...

Who made Man, Woman, free will ,good ,evil and Lucifer/Satan himself....God of course...God The creator ..father of heaven and earth made all these things..and it is good???

Not to me..Free will and man is what I hate about this world..it is what ALWAYS made this world rotten...but it is God's law..therefore I hate the very idea of God.

Judas and Mary M were potrayed as villains of the bible but had the most profound involvement in the life and death of Jesus Christ..

why was there war in heaven..I logically explained this so many times..and shared this with clergy that I know very well...who do find it "amusing".

why did God make Lucifer...being that God is all knowing...why did he make man...knowing what he knew of man...why does he punish us and make us suffer...why did he punish Lucifer...just for making us both what and who we are..

God turned his back on man in the book of Noah..he called us a mistake..I believe he never looked back since..nothing since then is there proof that he cares.

OH...His son..

Jesus was sent here to die for our sins and NOTHING more..he came from the right hand of the father..was born in a manger...and died on a Cross...then returned to Heaven..that was his destiny...but it took Judas to roll over on the Christ..obviously Christ's salvation wasn't really his intent....but it was the intent of his followers and especially his enemys.

what has JC done..why do you tyhink somany other religions don't buys this ...nothing has changed before or after the "sacrifice"..we still need redemption from sin and we still die to go to heaven...

Christians were a cunning lot and always full of shit...Chritmas is a farse..They picked the Winter Solstice (which starts on Dec 20th) to celebrate Jesus Birthday..one of the most important of all Holidays..Jesus wasn't born on December 25th..it was just a easier way to recruite pagans to Christianity..always with the BS!!

When you base a religion full of tiny white lies sucj as this...it will bite you in the ass eventually..and it's starting to...Now , I turned my back on that nonsense...I took control of my own life without the lies of man...and I hold my self accountable for my own action without a scapegoat to blame.

so many lies..someone is bound to catch one or two or one thousand..and I have...I was trained to investigate and find the truth from the information given to me by cunning liars who didn't want to go to jail!

Not calling Christian liars..I am convinced they are victims of thousands of years of brainwashing and conditioning...they took this belief in good faith...and they believe that their faith is good...and if THAT makes you a better person..that's just peachy with me.

Because I like good people..no matter what religion suckered you in.

If God, a beer , a joint , some pussy , or some anti depressant meds, oe just prayer makes you a better person and gets you throught the day in the life of a fucked up world that God created...more power to you!!!

But if these same things make you a dick..I will call you a dick, not befriend you and leave it at that..

So,..If you live your live as a good man...a truly good person..that don't share the Christian faith...you're fucked..so sayeth the book..and it's followers..

That is what Zeegs is saying..and experienced as a non Christian..Emmy and ANY other openly non-Christian knows excalty what I'm talking about....Christians are some of the most intolerant people I have ever known..not all..but certainly enough to confirm these feelings!!

When the time comes that you ever give your spirituality the boot and the finger to God..maybe you can see this thru our eyes..

Hey..we are the evil doers to Allah's people ...and they are the evil doers to God..

Evil is the things you don't like..

Good are the things you like..

It's subjective..

But who started the war..towel headed dickwads of Allah...but does this proove that all Muslims are dickwads...yeah, to some of us it does..to some.

The friggin' Pope Condoned with and met with Adolph Hitler...sure kill the Jews...why not...what do we care...sure..

But the late pontiff John Paul, apologized for that one and all the other counteless atrocities done thru history by christians..."oops, my bad"..and I am going to hell???...

At least he had the "balls" to ackowledge a major fuck up!!!

HELL??....bring it on...this life was so much fuggin' fun...just peachy..Thanks alot God...when and if we meet.. you better be wearing a bullet proof vest!! [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Believe in what you wish...just don't try selling any yellow snowballs to this eskimo .. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

I had my fill.. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Cool!!!! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[lerxstcat]

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Canada Rocks. [img]/images/graemlins/headbang.gif[/img]
They have a kickass Air Force, btw. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

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Yeah, apologies to the other Canadians, I just wanted to retaliate to Zeegs for his anti-Semitic comment about Israel. I still think the Israelis could take 'em, though if the need arose. [img]/images/graemlins/eviltongue.gif[/img]

[lerxstcat]

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Bill, lots of guys become Christian AFTER they're in for life, or sentenced to death. Either it's a ploy, or they had time to think.

As I said before, many of the things God said and did in the Bible puzzle or bother me. But He has the power and rules the universe, and isn't accountable to us. We are accountable to Him. Whether we like it or not, or however we argue and discuss the Bible, that's the bottom line, who has the power. On earth as it is in Heaven, world without end, Amen.

That can suck for us, but too bad. Nothing we can do about it.

[horns666]

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Yeah, Rich I hear ya..He's the Macdaddy...Lucifer can attest to that!! [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Yes, the closer to death...the closer to God man becomes..well for the obvious reasons..they are scared..and "what if"..ya know.."what if".. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

I'm anti-asshole..that's all. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

When I was a Christian...I had to love all God's creatures..I can't, it's just impossible..

So, Now I celebrate hate as much as love..both very inspring emotions!! [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

I only give love to those who deserve that love..and love to see my enemy get totally fucked!!

That is a "religion" I can relate to...and TRULY being God-like..

Maybe NOT Christ-like..but certainly God-like..

I like that..There, I am God-like! [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

I was made in his image..right..so fuck you if you don't agree with me...that is power [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Just Kiddin'.. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

[horns666]

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You know..

It sems like I'm on the defense alot..that is what drives me to discuss this matter so often..

I just want to show ..that a person "not of God" can be a tolerable, accountable, responsible, decent person..

Alot of people just can't believe that for whatever reason..well, that's their prob I guess..

This explains why I go on these "tangents" I guess..it's even tiring for me..I'm always finding myself repeating myself..that sucks!

It's not fun being who I am sometimes..but I can't change..I like who I am..

Nobody here is even suggesting that I change..and I RESPECT that..but in my personal life...wow! [img]/images/graemlins/what.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Wow.. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

I don't find that too much here..and when I am rarely confronted ..more often than not I can easily explain my plight and at least get some sort of.."understanding"...at least on face value.

That's cool!.. [img]/images/graemlins/toast.gif[/img]

[VitaminG]

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yo Bill! Heard the new Jorn cd yet? Saw it at my local shop yesterday. Would've bought it, but I have an aversion to paying full price for stuff, so I'll wait til it comes down. Any good?