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stupid people, kids only want to have some candy for cryin' out loud.
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Exactly. Kids should be allowed to be kids and not worry about crap like that. All they know is that their friends are going to dress up for halloween, and get a pile of candy. Denying them that is almost child abuse.
You're all right ..it's crazy shit.. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
Rich , first of all I commend any decent human that helps out another decent human. That is in one the nine Satanic Staements ..I helped MANY decent and well Not decent fols..and I'm a Satanist.
My friend Rich knows my story. I was a devouted Catholic. My family is from Italy and we are all die hard Roman Catholics...I've preayed to St. Anthony to help me find my car keys..Seriously Emmy may know bout that superstition ..since she's a Dago.. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
Yes I found those car keys ..Thank You St . Anthony ..YOU RULE!! [img]/images/graemlins/toast.gif[/img]
I know...both sides of the coin very well.. and know that there is good people in all walks of life , culture and then there is shit..there is an ugly side to Catholic History as well..and I don't need to go into deatils..but more people have been slaughtered in the name of God than all wars combined..
Hitler..The Pope and Condoned the Holocaust...they were Jews..what did he care. Later , a few years ago , the late pontif apologized for that one..and now replaced ironically by a German..once a Nazi in his youth I believe..small world...and a silly one. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
On Paper ..I am a "CATHOLIC"..have to "play the game" to keep my son in a prestigious private school for a quality education at 3k a year..no other options in the inner city besides sending him to a zoo.. So He will get all the brainwashing I got as I was growing up..let him know.."both sides of the coin"..later in life he can either ..still believe in God if he chooses to...be a Satanist like his old man...or a not give a shit atheist...or pagan..whatever he explores and finds what is best for him to make himself the best person possible..
Both sides of the coin..I do know both sides of the coin..I'm the ONLY one here that can say does as far as being "Christ-like" and Anti-Christ"..I'm the same person both ways..I just have a different moral outlook that suites MY needs better to make ME the strongest , best person I can be..and I never been stronger in heart and soul ..so to speak. Because I only depend on myself in this world ..and I'm all The God I need.
Unlike christians , and here is where me and Rich's beliefs differ..I can HATE my enemy .."guilt free"..and ONLY love those that deserve my love..THAT is the biggest difference right there.. That is NOT being Christ-Like..therefore it is the antithesis of that whole moral issue..in the old testement it was an "eye for an eye" until JC came along..and I will NOT be a hypocrite...I'd rather sin than be phony.
Yes JC was sent here by god to die...to die..that was his "Job"..ordered by his father "God" to die for the original Sin of adam and Eve..so that we may enter the kingdom of heaven....I call it a arrogant cock block to Satan really. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
JC came from heaven ...was sent here for ONE purpose only...mission was accomplished...went back to heaven...so everything is cool now right...NOT! [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
What has change before and after Christ's so called "sacrifice"..and what "sacrifice"..that was his job..he took the task humbly , willingly and lovingly..Right???
Jesus was sent here to save us from the sin that Lucifer wanted to prevent in the first place. The arguement between God and Lucifer was "free Agency"..God being all knowing and being our "Creator" knew this would lead man to sin..Lucifer knew this too..that was the arguement and why Lucifer and a third of Gods angels got their ass kicked out of Heaven..
Because Lucifer had the BALLS to call God on a Mistake that he made..
God created Lucifer..and gave him "The Light" The only being beside God that shares the same knowledge but didn't have the powers to act upopn that same knowledge. Lucifer was God's voice of reason and gave him guilt from "logic"..the logic God himself gave him..God lost faces amopung one third of his angels and got Uber pissed..
So what did Satan do..he prooved God wrong with the veru FIRST humans..Adam and Eve..then to Cain and Able..to the book of Noah where God was disgusted of his creation..his favorite creation "Man"...which Lucifer pointed out and prooved were a pathetic abortion ..So that is exactly what God did..he tried to kill us off..all of us..with a flood that would make Katrina look like a soft gentle sprinkle on a spring afternoon...
Who was right per that Bible..God or Satan..who really went to bat for mankind and was sacrificed..Satan or Jesus..who paid the ultimate price..Jesus sits in Heaven where he came from..where is Satan..
Evertime man fucks up..Satan laughs..looks to God..the God that turned his back on him and man..and Laughs..because he was right..and God knows that....Don't say I didn't tell you so. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
That is what I got out of 41 years of Catholic Religion. That is MY view of the Book that was rammed down my throat everyday of my life..So Now I welcome that Book...I am regurgitating it up and throwing up God's words into his face as a fan of Lucifer..the brighest Star God ever created ..just to be shit on by both God and Man.
That is what I was taught by the world around me.
What happened to me..how did this happen..why did I lose my faith and now HATE the very thought of God.
I got to know man..and the more I got to know man ..the more I despised him..he is Exactly made in Gods's image..he's a spoiled sport , a bully , commands power , arrogant , petty and treats others with disdain and cruelty..
Free Agency was a mistake...we can't handle that kind of responsibility..Lucifer was the Hero of the Bible...The biggest matyr and Scapegoat every created by man.....Oh I mean God.
To know God is to to know man..
Katrina??..Where was God..why pray to the one that has the control and made or let that happen..
That is being masochistic in my view..Like a victim praying to his attacker..and asking forgivemess for something he didn't ask nor provoke...That is being "Christ-Like".
Katrina..I wouldn't put my hands together and pray to the creator responsble..I'll give him the finger..just as Satan does.
Now , some call this Blasphemy..I call it simple logic..learned from the basis and merits from the entire Christian belief system..The Bible and The Church.
In a nutshell..Satan does NOT exist. BUT I am anti-Christ and Anti God which puts me one step further than a Humanist or Atheist..I have disdain for such as diety that would allow all this to BS happen..
I have learned the morals of both God and Satan..I'll go with Satan....Therefore I'm Satanic.
I respect all good people without prejudice..be it Christian , Satanist , Atheist etc,
Jails are filled with God fearing , loving pukes..if they are going to heaven..I want No part of that place.. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
Respectfully,
Bill Z Bub
"Bill, Smoke a Bowl and Crank Van Halen I, Life is better when I do that"
Donnie Swanstrom 01/25/06..miss ya!
"Well, your friend would have Bell's Palsy, which is a facial paralysis, not "Balls Pelsy" like we're joking about here." Toejam's attempt at sensitivity.
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stupid people, kids only want to have some candy for cryin' out loud.
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Exactly. Kids should be allowed to be kids and not worry about crap like that. All they know is that their friends are going to dress up for halloween, and get a pile of candy. Denying them that is almost child abuse.
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Ok, that's bullshit too. Getting candy on Halloween isn't an entitlement. It's just a goofball made up celebration. Living in the south you see a lot of people that don't go for Halloween. I don't see the big deal either way. My kids will be getting candy but a lot of their friends won't be.
The thing I do find fucked up is how I am able to respect their wishes not to participate in Halloween but those small-minded religious lemmings have to look down on me because we do participate.
I've said this before but when it comes to religion I wish more people would participate and I wish they would meet more often. I think church should become a nightly thing for them after work. In fact, they should eat dinner at church every night. And several meals at church on the weekend. This would dramatically improve my quality of life. The wait times at restaurants will be shorter, the traffic patterns will be simpler because they're all headed to the same place, and the hardware store will be all mine on Sunday.
I want REAL change. I want dead bodies littering the capitol.
Nice points there Tim..yeah that would make things a bit smoother for me..less human pollution to contend with on the very few excursions I have with the family unit for entertainment. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
"Bill, Smoke a Bowl and Crank Van Halen I, Life is better when I do that"
Donnie Swanstrom 01/25/06..miss ya!
"Well, your friend would have Bell's Palsy, which is a facial paralysis, not "Balls Pelsy" like we're joking about here." Toejam's attempt at sensitivity.
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stupid people, kids only want to have some candy for cryin' out loud.
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Exactly. Kids should be allowed to be kids and not worry about crap like that. All they know is that their friends are going to dress up for halloween, and get a pile of candy. Denying them that is almost child abuse.
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Ok, that's bullshit too. Getting candy on Halloween isn't an entitlement. It's just a goofball made up celebration. Living in the south you see a lot of people that don't go for Halloween. I don't see the big deal either way. My kids will be getting candy but a lot of their friends won't be.
The thing I do find fucked up is how I am able to respect their wishes not to participate in Halloween but those small-minded religious lemmings have to look down on me because we do participate.
I've said this before but when it comes to religion I wish more people would participate and I wish they would meet more often. I think church should become a nightly thing for them after work. In fact, they should eat dinner at church every night. And several meals at church on the weekend. This would dramatically improve my quality of life. The wait times at restaurants will be shorter, the traffic patterns will be simpler because they're all headed to the same place, and the hardware store will be all mine on Sunday.
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It's not necessarily an "entitlement" issue. It's a privalege of course, not a right, and I'm fully aware that the whole candy thing is bullshit, but lets face it, kids want to have what their friends have. I can understand parents not wanting their kids to have candy for health reasons, but when it is a religious issue, that's what is ridiculous. My son almost NEVER eats candy. He really isn't interested in it. On the odd occasion he gets some, he ends up spitting it out and leaving it someplace for me to step on. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
"Bill, Smoke a Bowl and Crank Van Halen I, Life is better when I do that"
Donnie Swanstrom 01/25/06..miss ya!
"Well, your friend would have Bell's Palsy, which is a facial paralysis, not "Balls Pelsy" like we're joking about here." Toejam's attempt at sensitivity.
Bill you are NOT a satanist, satanists are those weirdos/freaks/fags who worship that red dude with horns and tale, they want to sacrifice virigns etc. Satanists are full of bullshit like christians, they belive in fairy-tales. Satanism is a cult for those who think they are "cool" and "different". They hate god, you don't Bill, you can't hate something that doesn't exists, you are atheist. You hate stupid people. Satan is God for satanists, for you Satan is anti-religion. Satanism is a religion, you are anti-religon, use another word instead of satanism to describe your way of life because to some people it may be confusing [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
You are a good father for letting your kid to see how things really are by himself not forcing him to live by your beliefs, I wish more people would be like you.
"There is nothing more fearful than imagination without taste" - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
"To be stupid, selfish and have good health are three requirements for happiness, though if stupidity is lacking, all is lost" - Gustave Flaubert
continue discussing religion stuff if you wish..but remember ..
WE are all freinds here..everyone that ever been on this thread ..so treat each other with the respect and dignity we all deserve..so play nice
I'll be back later..
Bill Z
"Bill, Smoke a Bowl and Crank Van Halen I, Life is better when I do that"
Donnie Swanstrom 01/25/06..miss ya!
"Well, your friend would have Bell's Palsy, which is a facial paralysis, not "Balls Pelsy" like we're joking about here." Toejam's attempt at sensitivity.
Well E..what you are decribing is silly ass , poser "devil worshipers"..that's gay!
Satanist don't believe in any deity..just symbolism..and what he represents.
we celebrate life with anti-christian morals..therefore..I'm am Anti_Christ..which equals.."Satanist"..it is a "religion" that is based on logic and ritualized symbolism..but No babies , animals , or Virgins are offerd...well maybe the Virgins..its up to them..but it must be consensual..in fact in the black mass a naked female body is the alter..they way that LeVay devised it..not to say I must follow everything he says to a T..he had many valid points based on "logic" and inspired me to go into my direction...but I couldn't take him very seriuosly either..with all his silly rituals and formulas..
I'm the only Satanist besides Mark Twain...that uses the Bible as our very weapon..I'm my own god..and I am a Satanist in the truest form of the word..
I'm in good company ..Ben Franklin , DaVinci , Twain , Einstien , Crowely , LeVay..we all have our own fun poking holes in God's book so it doesn't hold water..I have my own style of doing that. That to me seems much more credible than Anton.
In fact , I am the closest person to "Satan" that you will ever know.. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
"Bill, Smoke a Bowl and Crank Van Halen I, Life is better when I do that"
Donnie Swanstrom 01/25/06..miss ya!
"Well, your friend would have Bell's Palsy, which is a facial paralysis, not "Balls Pelsy" like we're joking about here." Toejam's attempt at sensitivity.
"Bill, Smoke a Bowl and Crank Van Halen I, Life is better when I do that"
Donnie Swanstrom 01/25/06..miss ya!
"Well, your friend would have Bell's Palsy, which is a facial paralysis, not "Balls Pelsy" like we're joking about here." Toejam's attempt at sensitivity.
Jane Mansfield and Marylin Monroe where LeVay's squeezes at one time..So the SATAN was very good to him!! [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
He always had great puss.. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
"Bill, Smoke a Bowl and Crank Van Halen I, Life is better when I do that"
Donnie Swanstrom 01/25/06..miss ya!
"Well, your friend would have Bell's Palsy, which is a facial paralysis, not "Balls Pelsy" like we're joking about here." Toejam's attempt at sensitivity.
Bill, my friend. I clicked on that link and proceeded to laugh myself into a couching fit. Why did you trick me into going on the GWAR website? That wasn't nice. I was looking for some insight on your religious beliefs and all I get is GWAR. That pic on the main page was from their third album, wasn't it? [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
I wholeheartedly agree with this statement.
(from the Nine Satanic Sins)
"1. Stupidity—The top of the list for Satanic Sins. The Cardinal Sin of Satanism. It’s too bad that stupidity isn’t painful. Ignorance is one thing, but our society thrives increasingly on stupidity. It depends on people going along with whatever they are told. The media promotes a cultivated stupidity as a posture that is not only acceptable but laudable. Satanists must learn to see through the tricks and cannot afford to be stupid."
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