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What is the point of putting Xs in place of the digits from a guitar's serial number when listing on Ebay? Like UO64xx or something. Why won't they state the whole serial number? [img]/images/graemlins/scratchhead.gif[/img]
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<font color="yellow">NOTP....I think basically to keep people from duplicating a guitar by its serial ##.....especially on older Charvels/Jacksons with plates. I could be wrong, but I think I'm on track.
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I'll bet the sellers who advertise like this get bombarded with e-mails requesting the full uncensored serial number. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] Or, maybe not.
If you don't put the whole serial number, then that means you cannot take a photo of the serial number on the guitar.
I dunno, but this seems like a shady little practice to me... how can you be SURE you're getting a certain serial number you might be after? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]Comment
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Plus, maybe someone could be able to report that serial stolen, and you have the guitar!Comment
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[img]/images/graemlins/scratchhead.gif[/img] Cleveland John... lemme see if I've got this right...
Let's say I list a guitar with serial number 1234 on Ebay that I've had in my collection ever since I originally ordered it way back when. Joe Stranger comes along and sees that 1234 is HIS guitar. He reports this... and I lose MY guitar? WTF? [img]/images/graemlins/scratchhead.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]Comment
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Nah, prolly not. But, if you really had little proof of having, like you just bought it cash and no proof. I spose there could be some problems involved at some level. I'm sure that's unlikely, but it came to mind. I'm a paranoid sort sometimes, haha...
If someone actually has the serial, and claims it stolen, it wold sorta be your need to prove it was yours I'd guess. Maybe someone else can comment.Comment
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I would think the person claiming it was stolen would have to provide some sort of proof of previous ownership. If it's just a claim with nothing to back it up (no police report, no receipt, etc.) then I would think the authorities would be more likely to side with the person in possession of the guitar as the rightful owner.
Of course, it would potentially still be a hassle.Comment
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I thought some sellers don't like putting the full number cos some certain buyers might not want the public to find out they have a certain number and be placed in someone's record who tracks serial numbers...like I'm sure many of us do here for J/C's! [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] Basically to protect the buyers privacy or something like that."Your work is ingenius…it’s quality work….and there are simply too many notes…that’s all, just cut a few, and it’ll be perfect."Comment
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I for one prefer a seller to divulge the whole number up front, especially on loose plates and mutts, so that the numbers can be tracked in the future. The Efraid section was created, as it says, to help distinguish the real SD Charvels from the Fake, which were at the time being dumped onto Ebay like they were growing on trees. Since it keeps getting harder to fake them using Model models and Warmoth parts, it has gotten easier to relic bodies and duplicate a 20 year old Charvel neck and body. All you'd need is a plate with a legit serial number.
Plus, as some sellers have done, they buy a loose plate and "rebuild" the guitar using non-original parts based on the Log Book info for that number, and then try to pass it off as an original SD.
Additionally, some have bought an entire SD guitar - neck, plate, body, everything - and put the neck on a fake body, the body with a fake neck, and if the same guy also picked up another loose plate, he's able to fake 2 San Dimas Charvels at once using legitimate parts and gets twice as much as if he'd just resold the one original guitar.
I don't buy the notion that it protects collectors' identities. Don't wanna be known? Deal anonymously.
There are many who want the iron-clad guarantee that a clear pic of the serial number offers. If you see neckplate #5127 on a white Explorer bass with a piezo bridge and pointy head on Ebay, then later someone lists a Rising Sun Strathead with the same number, you have a right as a buyer to know that you're buying a parts mutt that will not match the official build records for that plate.
If it affects the value, it should be disclosed, whether it's damage, wear, any sort of mods from the original construction (including factory-done mods after the original sale of the guitar), part swaps (tuners, saddles, pickups, etc) or especially if the original factory neckplate has left the body for any reason.
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If you see neckplate #5127 on a white Explorer bass with a piezo bridge and pointy head on Ebay, then later someone lists a Rising Sun Strathead with the same number, you have a right as a buyer to know that you're buying a parts mutt that will not match the official build records for that plate.
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Hey, is that the serial # from the bass that douche didn't send to you? We'll keep an eye out! BTW, what ever happened to that seller that posted it for sale like a year or 2 later? We gots to get a JCF Strikeforce together on this one!"Your work is ingenius…it’s quality work….and there are simply too many notes…that’s all, just cut a few, and it’ll be perfect."Comment
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Yup, that's it.
The second guy disappeared as well [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
Summer NAMM's in Indianapolis next year, and both douchebags are about 50 miles on either side of the city. I'm seriously thinking about going next year, and paying them both a little visit.
NewcI want to depart this world the same way I arrived; screaming and covered in someone else's blood
The most human thing we can do is comfort the afflicted and afflict the comfortable.
My Blog: http://newcenstein.comComment
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Those little bastards!!"Your work is ingenius…it’s quality work….and there are simply too many notes…that’s all, just cut a few, and it’ll be perfect."Comment
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I'm seriously thinking about going next year, and paying them both a little visit.
Newc
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