Re: Anime - sometimes even a fan has to say WTF?!?
Absolut - Ok, I can see your point of view, but what about stuff from Ralph Bakshi? Things like American Pop, Wizards, or even the original Lord Of The Rings film? Not the two Rankin-Bass ones - The Hobbit and The Return Of The King, but the one that was basically done by drawing over live-actors? It was a lot darker and set a more ominous mood than the Rankin-Bass cartoons. If you haven't seen American Pop or Wizards, give them a shot, then go watch something like Vampire Hunter D, Macross Plus, Akira, and Ghost In The Shell.
Even Rock-And-Rule might be a good starting point to bridge the gap between "cartoons" and "animated features".
Cartoons to me are Flintstones, Jetsons, Bugs Bunny, and even TransFormers, Speed Racer, and Thundercats, because of the "everything happens in 30 minutes" syndrome. Anime serials and movies are more like "real" shows because they don't try to do everything in 30 minutes or a simple two-part (hour total) story, and people don't die in cartoons. In Anime, when you die, there's blood, usually a lot of screaming, and dismemberment (Fist Of The North Star has some of the longest death scenes I've ever seen, as well as the most graphically intense - ripping a guy's kidneys out without him knowing it, poking holes in another guy with your fingers and watching him spray blood to death slowly, etc). Then there's the nudity, sex, language, and other adult-oriented content such as more attention on the dialog and story than flashy colors and music.
There's an Anime called Metropolis, which is basically an animated re-telling of the original Metropolis movie (the first Sci-Fi movie ever), and while it looks very cartoony (Cambell Soup Kids), it does contain very graphic violence.
The first cartoon I ever saw that was geared towards kids AND dealt with death was Bambi. The only one I've seen that gave the feeling of REAL death and how it affects others was Watership Down.
Newc
Absolut - Ok, I can see your point of view, but what about stuff from Ralph Bakshi? Things like American Pop, Wizards, or even the original Lord Of The Rings film? Not the two Rankin-Bass ones - The Hobbit and The Return Of The King, but the one that was basically done by drawing over live-actors? It was a lot darker and set a more ominous mood than the Rankin-Bass cartoons. If you haven't seen American Pop or Wizards, give them a shot, then go watch something like Vampire Hunter D, Macross Plus, Akira, and Ghost In The Shell.
Even Rock-And-Rule might be a good starting point to bridge the gap between "cartoons" and "animated features".
Cartoons to me are Flintstones, Jetsons, Bugs Bunny, and even TransFormers, Speed Racer, and Thundercats, because of the "everything happens in 30 minutes" syndrome. Anime serials and movies are more like "real" shows because they don't try to do everything in 30 minutes or a simple two-part (hour total) story, and people don't die in cartoons. In Anime, when you die, there's blood, usually a lot of screaming, and dismemberment (Fist Of The North Star has some of the longest death scenes I've ever seen, as well as the most graphically intense - ripping a guy's kidneys out without him knowing it, poking holes in another guy with your fingers and watching him spray blood to death slowly, etc). Then there's the nudity, sex, language, and other adult-oriented content such as more attention on the dialog and story than flashy colors and music.
There's an Anime called Metropolis, which is basically an animated re-telling of the original Metropolis movie (the first Sci-Fi movie ever), and while it looks very cartoony (Cambell Soup Kids), it does contain very graphic violence.
The first cartoon I ever saw that was geared towards kids AND dealt with death was Bambi. The only one I've seen that gave the feeling of REAL death and how it affects others was Watership Down.
Newc
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