Bad news \ Dilema.......

[jazzman]

Re: Bad news \\ Dilema.......

Mabey if the bassist tuned a half step up, he'd be on the money. You should've sneaked and changed the cal. on his tuner. You sound pretty good. Too bad the bass player don't! A mismatch made in HELL!

[diablomozart]

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i've stayed out of this topic on purpose...i had already discussed it a little with rick before this all came up...my only public comments will be this...anyone can hear that crazy train was far superior to the other clips you posted...and being in a band...it IS about compromise (for everybody)...but when you can't get happy no matter what, it's time to knock it in the head...you can do better for bandmates dude...d.m.

[LRGman]

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Pull the other guitar player's cable out so he can't be heard! Make rude comments on stage when the bass player and other guitar player f*ck up, then ask if an audience member knows how to play the songs correctly. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] I'd quit and take the drummer with you and form a new band.

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Hey Rick I am with Toejam here. You know these guys are sucking and you feel you are a decent player. So take a different approach. Go out and play and just have fun. Who cares so you guys suck, you getting paid? If you are then screw, drink a few brews or whatever turns your wheels and enjoy yourself. Obviously you are a member so take it upon your self. A cover band is a cover band no one is going to get accolades being in a cover band. Lighten up let them butcher any songs they want, take the money and get a good laugh. A little humility is good for everyone. So after you are humiliated through 6 gigs. Do like Bill said and just pee on the guys guitar-make sure its unplugged though.

If you and the drummer are good then go out and lock on with the drummer. If they miss the changes so what, let them follow you and him, don't change to their mistake-that's disaster.

[Riffmeister]

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Hey DM, thanks ! I know your right about compromise, but I just feel like if you can play and sound somewhwt decent (like the crazy train clip) there is no reason to soud like the others MOST OF THE TIME. Except for lack of practice.

I 've talked with you about my playing and my theory skills before and I admit that I have a LOT to leran or that I hardly know it all. Playing something like the lead to Crazy Train, Does however require some musical ability, and this guy wouldn't listen to me no matter what I said. That's where I feel I was the one compromising all the time.

Lrgman..

Man I hear what you are sayin, but I HAVE ALREADY done that approach for the last year and now am sick of it. Plus I son't know if you read this entire thread, but there is a bunch of backstabbing and shots being taken at me thing going on.
After talking to my brother about this ( he played in a band with the new guitarist before) He seems t think that the reason this is all happening is cause he can sing a bit of backup vocals, and I wouldn't.

The reason 'I wouldn't is cause I am a terrible singer , even the stuff I could do, I could't find my notes whitle the bass player was screamin in the mc, and he had to sing on EVERYTHING. My brother has excellent back up vocal and pairedd with his great rythym guitar skills is what helped make the band sound any good to begin with. H had a hard time trying to sing harmony with this guy and finnally just stopped tryng and that is one reason he quit.

What they are gonna find out though is that the guys range is very limited and a lot of time he can't sing and play at the same time. He will neve be able to play some of the stuff I was doing and sing at the same time.

We did that Taproot song Poem and the versus are almost impossible to sing and play that riff at the same time, and it has a major second part in it, I don't know what it is though [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[OnlineStageGear]

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Wow, that Greenday clip was horrible.

Matt

[Riffmeister]

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Hey Matt , now you RELLY feel my pain huh? [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] LOL

[OnlineStageGear]

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How anyone could be happy knowing a copy of them playing like that is floating around is beyond me. If that were me on Bass, I would want that burned.

If he is happy with that and won't listen to reason, them tell him to kiss MY ass.

Matt

[diablomozart]

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well...what i was trying to point out is that everyone has thier limits...compromise is a good thing...up to a point...but they have won't compromise with you and at least try to play the songs right [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]...d.m.

[horns666]

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My bass player is awesome ...because he's me.

Now if I could only clone myself to play bass for live gigs... [img]/images/graemlins/scratchhead.gif[/img]

Bill Z Bub clones can't be a bad thing ...the more the better [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

I'll clone a Bill Z Bub to play bass for you too Rick ..and one to bop your girl at no extra charge.. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[lerxstcat]

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[img]/images/graemlins/what.gif[/img] That Green Day is pretty horrid! The Dio was only semi-horrid, and Crazy Train sounded pretty good. Look at the bright side, the audience was drunk! Anyhoo,you held up your end just fine, so you come out smelling like a rose compared to those clowns. [img]/images/graemlins/headbang.gif[/img]

[jazzman]

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I agree with the drinking audience. The more they drink, the better you'll sound. Or the more you drink, the less you'll care. Or something like that.

[Riffmeister]

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Hey Bill,

I'll take that clone to do the Bass, but I think I might still boping my wife myself [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] I'll get back to you on that.

The last club we played at tried to short us cash cause the owner said and I quote " You guy only brought a few people and none of them were drinking" SO......... he pretty muche proved my point.

I think they were to sick to their stomaches from hearing his bass and vocals. HAHAHAHA!

Oh and I don't drink either so I will never not care what I sound like [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[Cleveland Metal]

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Even when I drink, I worry about my sound...

[Riffmeister]

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I don't even want to think what I might sound like drunk HAHAHA, It's hard enough for me when I'm sober [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

[horns666]

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[img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]...OK Rick , I'll send you a Bill Z Bub right away.

He promises he won't "bop" your wife as long as you keep him occupied with pizza. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

This should get his mind off the "boppin" but I'm not guaranteein' nuthin'!

OH , and if you do jam with a Bill Z Bub ...be sure to wear rubber pants and buy some plastic sheeting ...he will mark his territory.

You may want to give this some more thought before I ship him out to you. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Bill Z Bub's are awesome ...but they are a pain in the friggin' ass...just ask John. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]