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Well, the wife and I have decided on a Subaru Forester. We drove one of those back to back with an Outback and for our needs and dollars, the Forester came out ahead.
For those of you in St. Louis, have you had any dealings with the Lou Fusz group? They've got a nice '05 Forester for $18,990 with all the rebates. They say "no hassle pricing" but I'm wondering how firm they are with the sticker. Anyone know if they're flexable? Don't want to pay too much and I can't stand haggling. In fact, if anyone has any pointers on talking the salesman down, I'm all ears.
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Well, the wife and I have decided on a Subaru Forester. We drove one of those back to back with an Outback and for our needs and dollars, the Forester came out ahead.
For those of you in St. Louis, have you had any dealings with the Lou Fusz group? They've got a nice '05 Forester for $18,990 with all the rebates. They say "no hassle pricing" but I'm wondering how firm they are with the sticker. Anyone know if they're flexable? Don't want to pay too much and I can't stand haggling. In fact, if anyone has any pointers on talking the salesman down, I'm all ears.
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Ask to see the invoice and then offer them $100 dollars over what they paid for it. That'll be a good starting point. Seriously.... [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] There's always incentives/rebates from the manufacturer that they don't tell you about that they wind up keeping for themselves. They may act insulted at first, but they'll get over it. Play hardball.
My future band shall be known as "One Samich Short Of A Picnic"!
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Well, the wife and I have decided on a Subaru Forester. We drove one of those back to back with an Outback and for our needs and dollars, the Forester came out ahead.
For those of you in St. Louis, have you had any dealings with the Lou Fusz group? They've got a nice '05 Forester for $18,990 with all the rebates. They say "no hassle pricing" but I'm wondering how firm they are with the sticker. Anyone know if they're flexable? Don't want to pay too much and I can't stand haggling. In fact, if anyone has any pointers on talking the salesman down, I'm all ears.
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Ask to see the invoice and then offer them $100 dollars over what they paid for it. That'll be a good starting point. Seriously.... [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] There's always incentives/rebates from the manufacturer that they don't tell you about that they wind up keeping for themselves. They may act insulted at first, but they'll get over it. Play hardball.
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Dammit Mark, dont give out ALL our secrets!!!!! I doubt a dealer is gonna pull out the invoice and say...LOOKIE HERE, THIS IS WHAT WE PAY FOR IT...
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Well, the wife and I have decided on a Subaru Forester. We drove one of those back to back with an Outback and for our needs and dollars, the Forester came out ahead.
For those of you in St. Louis, have you had any dealings with the Lou Fusz group? They've got a nice '05 Forester for $18,990 with all the rebates. They say "no hassle pricing" but I'm wondering how firm they are with the sticker. Anyone know if they're flexable? Don't want to pay too much and I can't stand haggling. In fact, if anyone has any pointers on talking the salesman down, I'm all ears.
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Ask to see the invoice and then offer them $100 dollars over what they paid for it. That'll be a good starting point. Seriously.... [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] There's always incentives/rebates from the manufacturer that they don't tell you about that they wind up keeping for themselves. They may act insulted at first, but they'll get over it. Play hardball.
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Dammit Mark, dont give out ALL our secrets!!!!! I doubt a dealer is gonna pull out the invoice and say...LOOKIE HERE, THIS IS WHAT WE PAY FOR IT...
Come to NC and buy a Dodge from us.....I can get ya a good price, say your my brother and get you an additional 1750 off plus all the rebates....or wait until April and I can get you one BELOW invoice price plus rebates....I can only do one below invoice once a year
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Dammit Mark, dont give out ALL our secrets!!!!! I doubt a dealer is gonna pull out the invoice and say...LOOKIE HERE, THIS IS WHAT WE PAY FOR IT...
Mrs LPC [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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*Note to self: don't buy from Krista's dealership cuz they'll refuse to show you the invoice. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]
What am I thinking? I wouldn't do that anyway, cuz she sells MOPARS. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] But I digress. ANY dealer that won't show you the original invoice is questionable at best. Personally, I'd walk out the door if they refused. Accomodate me, YOUR CUSTOMER, or I'm gonna spend my money elsewhere. It's that simple. Ya gotta play hardball. Be nice, but remain firm.
My future band shall be known as "One Samich Short Of A Picnic"!
Honestly, I dont know if they show invoice or not....I dont deal with any of that....I see the car deals after its a done deal and its time to work up the contract and get the plates and all that....the biggest headache I get from customers are the ones that call 2 days after they buy a car wanting to know if the plates are in (like I see a car deal 2 days after its done) and the ones that say they dont owe us money when I know they do....I get the hardest damn job there and paid the least...does that tell ya anything???
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Honestly, I dont know if they show invoice or not....I dont deal with any of that....I see the car deals after its a done deal and its time to work up the contract and get the plates and all that....the biggest headache I get from customers are the ones that call 2 days after they buy a car wanting to know if the plates are in (like I see a car deal 2 days after its done) and the ones that say they dont owe us money when I know they do....I get the hardest damn job there and paid the least...does that tell ya anything???
Mrs LPC
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[img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] Just try to get outta that office and out on the floor. Low-cut blouse... a lil' ass wigglin... and the commissions start rollin in. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
My future band shall be known as "One Samich Short Of A Picnic"!
I do that anyway....the boss loves it when me and Heather wear a low cut top with a pushup bra....hell he made 2 sales the other day because of it....wait, this thread is about buying a car...sorry for the hijack!!
...and don't forget to check the dealer incentives and rebates section, for the secret stuff Krista and other dealer won't tell you about [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] ...
On the Escape, we have had one for a few years. No problems at all. Great SUV. Just make sure you get the V6, as the 4 banger is anemic. It's a champ in the snow, too. Personally, I wouldn't buy a Subie, as their reliability records ain't the greatest. It's your dime, though.
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