Doubled guitars

[L]

going forward I believe all bands should have 2+ guitar players minimum and even going to Social Distortion levels wouldn't be a bad idea because I truely think all guitar riffs and melodies should always be doubled. It just sounds good, damn it.

[Deneb]

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I don't like guitar players, I generally won't play in a band if it has 2 guitar players.

[L]

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you're out then, I'm sorry but in my world youd be religated to hot dog vendor.

[Tetsuo]

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I have played with 3 no actually 4 guitar players... Usually with 2 but honestly I prefer 1 it is so much easier to get locked in and tight with one obviously

[YetAnotherOne]

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I really dig 2 guitar bands where the guitars play slightly different rhythm lines. Particularly when the rhythm parts have slightly different tones and are panned hard left & right. IMHO that's just one of the coolest sounds in rock & roll.

[Deneb]

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L, have you even heard me play? In my world, if you have to have 2 guitars, you can't handle playing on your own, and rely on the 2nd guitar player. Granted, I'm not saying there isn't good two guitar bands out there, because I listen to A LOT of them.

Yes, you have bands that play good with 2 guitar players, but more often than not you have 2 guitar players that are not even remotely close to one another, with different rigs, and different sounds.

By your logic, John Petrucci would be selling chilli dogs right beside me, same with Yngwie, and several other "hot dog vending" guitar players. But hey, if being placed in the hot dog category, places me with other great players, I'm in.

[mudkicker]

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In my world, if you have to have 2 guitars, you can't handle playing on your own, and rely on the 2nd guitar player.

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I have never seen any recording band with one guitarist ever play their songs like the way they recorded them. With backing tracks and layering their guitar they can never duplicate it live. However almost every two guitarist band that I have seen live sounds very close to their recorded sound.
All of the bands I have been in were two guitarist bands, I think it makes for a fuller sound.

[L]

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Have you ever heard me play? I'm almost as good as the dude from Beat Happening. This is not about playing, this is about listening. I don't wanna be in the middle of some arena surrounded by guitar nerds listening to G3. I want to be in a dirty club, forced to drink PBR, with some 38-year old in a cutoff Tesla Tank top rubbing up against me while some serious lines are doubled up on the stage.

[sully]

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I really dig 2 guitar bands where the guitars play slightly different rhythm lines. Particularly when the rhythm parts have slightly different tones and are panned hard left & right. IMHO that's just one of the coolest sounds in rock & roll.

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totally. i've always preferred being in 2 guitar bands, because i like to have more than just one guitar part going. it sounds fuller, and you can add more dynamics, and it sounds way fuller.

deneb, your statement of why 2 guitar bands exist is very close minded.

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[thetroy]

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Obviously Yngwie sees some sort of merit to this system. Ever listen to say, Black Star? Call me crazy but I hear more than one guitar at a time!

[Ninja Guitar]

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This thread makes my head hurt.

[atomic charvel guy]

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i need to play alone, no other guitar players allowed.

[Deneb]

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Granted, I'm not saying there isn't good two guitar bands out there, because I listen to A LOT of them.


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Maybe my post should actually be read. I didn't say they are evil, or bad, I said I prefer not to play with them. Yes, most studio work is over dubbed, but when it's played live, it's missing one guitar, if only in a one guitar band. I have a cd I just did in the studio, where I play over my rhytym track and it sounds stale on the CD.

I shouldn't start a fight or pick one, but you just pissed me off when you said I was religated to a hot dog vendor. I've been playing for several years to get where I am today. Many of my favorite bands have 2 guitar players, just because I don't like have 2, doesn't mean I don't listen to 2. Of course you sound fuller on a cd if you have 78000 tracks of the same thing, it's common sense.

Like I said, some of my fav bands (actually ATM all my fav bands) have 2 guitar players. And my logic doesn't always apply (I'm sure Mustaine and Friedman/whoever could hold their own, on their own) it's like this, there's always an exception to the rule, and I understand that but for the most part, or so it seems, is when many bands go looking for another guitar player, it's because the other can't do what he has to, or for crying out loud, listen to a lot of todays music, no need for 2 guitars, but they do it anyway.

I'll say it one more time, because apparently it was missed when I posted it, I listen to a lot of 2 guitar bands. Just because I personally don't like to play in 2 guitar bands, doesn't mean either or is bad. I find that I have to work harder to express myself creatively in a one guitar band, and anything I can do to make myself strive to be better is good. If I pissed you off, sorry, but you really pissed me off with your comment. After reading it, I understand you're not undercutting my playing, you're choosing a different way to express disagreement with my logic, and that's fine.

[Inazone]

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I really dig 2 guitar bands where the guitars play slightly different rhythm lines. Particularly when the rhythm parts have slightly different tones and are panned hard left & right. IMHO that's just one of the coolest sounds in rock & roll.

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That's how my band works. We just finished recording a full-length, and rarely are both guitars playing the same thing. We were going to layer the tracks, but with two guitars playing variations of the same thing, it wasn't necessary. We didn't record anything that we couldn't play live, except for a couple of spots with very simple backing tracks.

Well, that and the bass...we don't have a live bassist. No, we have a Boss OC-3 Super Octave. [img]/images/graemlins/what.gif[/img]

[RacerX]

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