NAMM Swag #9

[~K~]

Re: NAMM Swag #9

For the sake of it not being too confusing he wasn't referring to prepro 5 digit plates but 4 digit "production" guitars ... There is a little known fact about the first production guitar ..

[LesPaulCustom]

Re: NAMM Swag #9

Okay, is it 1081???

[Emthrax]

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I thought it was the Heineken Strat too...

If not... was it the Candy Cane Charvel Custom Strat, Serial Number 1018 ? [img]/images/graemlins/scratchhead.gif[/img]

[Chuckracer]

Re: NAMM Swag #9

Nuttin like shootin at a moving target here... [img]/images/graemlins/popcorn.gif[/img]

[LesPaulCustom]

Re: NAMM Swag #9

damn dyslexia

[~K~]

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Well to be honest I think someone should probably get hold of the old guy (pstang) and get a new question going..

The point of this one was simply .. the heinekin strat while technically is the 1st serialized production guitar, never left the factory with a serialized plate... the plate was later sent and added ...

[Chuckracer]

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What was the first serialized Charvel to leave the factoy?

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I kinda figured that's what he was after, but still...eh, void it!

[Guest]

Re: NAMM Swag #9

OK,

The first serialized Charvel that left the fatcory was 1002, 1001 was shipped with a pre-pro neckplate and later added, but 1002 was the first fully assembled Charvel 6 string with neckplate to leave the factory. According to the pros, Mr Maynard included.

Tracy also submitted this question... [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] So don't shoot the messanger, but I must admit, it was a good one, guess it should have been worded differently. I'll make sure the new q's are solid and not so confusing.

Alright, I guess I got to give you guys the answer on the first question as well, no? Unless tracy wants to jump in there?

We'll try a few more tomorrow. I need to do inventory with what's left and throw it all into a few questions I suppose.

Pat

[Chuckracer]

Re: NAMM Swag #9

According to Robb Witte's site that is incorrect. The November 81 Heinie 1001 was the first of the FOUR digit guitars, and 1002 may have been the first FOUR digit guitar to leave the factory with the plate attached, but the seralized FIVE digit guitars were made and shipped prior to that in mid '81.

This is echo'd on the other three main Charvel sites as well.

[diablomozart]

Re: NAMM Swag #9

i tried to point out the answer to the first question in another thread...lol...d.m.

[Guest]

Re: NAMM Swag #9

Sorry Chuck, just the messenger bro...

I did confirm the answer I thought, and was told, with a couple of others tho... [img]/images/graemlins/scratchhead.gif[/img]

Pat

[EDIT] comma's added

[BLOOD SPLATTER]

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Tracy also submitted this question... /quote]

Submitting a question that would lead to bs??Now who'd believe that??Ugghh!!

[gtrbuyer]

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Tracy also submitted this question... /quote]

Submitting a question that would lead to bs??Now who'd believe that??Ugghh!!

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I submitted about 12 or so questions to help out..sorry if this one was worded a little poorly, please forgive me Chuck...just trying to help out..the other questions I submitted seemed to work okay and I think it was cool of Pat to do. I like it..great stuff and its fun..if ya don't like it why not just leave...

It looks like you want to stir the sh!t pot with me (obvious from your post) but you are gonna have to wait till after the super bowl.

Anyway...back to the games..I like this trivia stuff...and once again Pat very cool of ya to give....

[~K~]

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According to Robb Witte's site that is incorrect. The November 81 Heinie 1001 was the first of the FOUR digit guitars, and 1002 may have been the first FOUR digit guitar to leave the factory with the plate attached, but the seralized FIVE digit guitars were made and shipped prior to that in mid '81.

This is echo'd on the other three main Charvel sites as well.



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K lets see if I can break this down as I know it to make more sense of it ..

5 digit prepros while serialized are not really considered by collectors as "production serialized guitars" then again we could get slo in this arguement and his take is there are really no prepro's .

I've talked to the people involved with the heinekin strat to get as much info as possible. 1001 was originally chosen by sully and myself as JCF-03 .. but thats another story. The heinee indeed left the factory with a plain plate and the plate was later shipped at the request of the pwner. I beleive I was told Jackson in fact asked if they would like the first plate and sent it....

at any rate this is how the story went ... now the guy wats what $25k for it?? ... go figure

[Chuckracer]

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OK, I think I understand now; while the five digit guitars were a random serialization, the four digit guitars were built and logged with some sembelence of record keeping in regards to that serial number. Nothing strict, mind, as this was Charvel/Jackson and this was the eighties, so there were changed log entries (whole new can o worms), and out of sequence numbers used, etc.
But as far as cronological serialization goes, 1001 was the start of it. And yes, that plate was added to the Heinie guitar after the fact as a favor to a dealer. Therefore, 1002 was bolted to a guitar and shipped.

However, in the strictest sense of the question, the first Charvel to leave the factory with a serialized plate...we're back to the mid '81 five digit instruments again!

I'm really not trying to be a dick here, just...thinking maybe these question ought to stay away from the historical "facts". The Superstrat question was equally ambiguious.