Drinking and Kip Winger

[Top Jimmy B]

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Just when I thought all hope was lost, toejam saves my day.

[jgcable]

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Alcohol always affects your performance in a bad way although Kip should have kept his comments to himself.

[paulbag]

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So my band opens and closes for Kip Winger last night (he did an acoustic set). After our first set I come off the stage and Kip is in back getting warmed up. He says, "hey nice job, I like your originals". OK, so that was cool of him to say.

But then I jokingly say "yeah they're alright for a bunch of drunken idiots like us". Then he proceeds to get down on me saying how you can't drink when you play. I basically told him to f off.

I mean we're not doing this to become famous, we're doing it to have fun. Our job is to sell alcohol for the clubs we play in, we know that. And we like to drink when we play gigs, the place becomes chaos - in a good way.

Am I wrong here? Is Kip right? Maybe there is a good reason why the kid on Beavis and Butthead with the Winger shirt got beat up all the time? Please discuss....

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for me, my cover band is a party band. we get just as fucked up as everyone else if not more. for my original metal stuff though i take it easy a bit. it's much more technically demanding and i take pride in what i write and want to perform it as flawlessly as possible. but yeah, you still gotta have a "few"! [img]/images/graemlins/toast.gif[/img]

[Ace]

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Everyone is different. For me personally, one beer before a show can help me relax and get into the music. However drinking to the point where I refer to myself as a "drunken idiot" usually totally ruins my performance.

[Accept2]

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I love it when people say drinking on stage is cool. They are always the same people who rag on Eddie and Ace as being a couple of drunks.........Kip is cool, he was just talking to you as a guy who has been there, and imparting some advice. WTF is wrong with that?..............

[ROCKPRO]

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There's sloppy drunk and there's drinking. I've seen people have a beer on stage and I've seen people plastered on stage. I've also seen everything in-between one drink and fully tanked on stage.
Obviously you're not giving your best performance when you're tanked, and as a fan I may as well be listening to the juke box if the band is toast (but a drunk band is fun to watch because they suck so bad, if I'm there to watch drunks on stage).

On the other hand, I've seen people catch their groove and really open up when they're "just a bit loose" on stage. They seem more relaxed and yet more focused on what they're doing and they do it damn well.

I haven't seen that too often - not a lot of people can do it. If you can do it (and did it), Kip has a problem. If you blew easy songs because you were partying too hard, then you have a problem.

Fun is one thing, but a stage in front of a crowd in a bar is not the band's playground to have their party at the expense of the crowd's party.
You're the entertainment - the Human Juke Box. Act like it or stay in the garage.

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What Newc said! [img]/images/graemlins/headbang.gif[/img] You spoke your mind my hat is off to you!

[Big D]

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Thanks for all the comments guys, I agree with most of what's been said. I should clarify I never actually told him to f off. That was my rhetorical way of saying I said "yeah whatever" and basically just walked away from him after he started getting down on me about it.

He actually was really nice to us, but I really was bummed about his condescending attitude on the drinking thing. He's entitled to his opionion which I respect, but the way he delivered the message was not good.

Anyway, yes his hair did look really nice. And he does have an amazing voice.

[MBreinin]

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I think he was just giving you a comment on being professional, at lest in his eyes. What you consider appropriate is up to you. I drink regularly, but I am not a professional musician.

Mike

[Ace]

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Remember, the guy wrote a song glorifying pedophilia. He was certainly over 18 when Winger was on MTV.

[hippietim]

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Remember, the guy wrote a song glorifying pedophilia. He was certainly over 18 when Winger was on MTV.

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At least Kip's no Pete Townshend.

[Newc]

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Or Michael Jackson (allegedly) [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Or Dave Holland [img]/images/graemlins/nono.gif[/img]

Or Rob Halford [img]/images/graemlins/sick.gif[/img]

Or Elton John [img]/images/graemlins/fart.gif[/img]

[Drsracing]

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I think I'm drunk and kip sucks

[442w30]

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I put Holland and Jackson in a different category than Halford and Elton John, but yeah... Kip probably just was emparting old folks wisdom on a talented destructive youth.

I have to hand it to Kip, I got out of metal and I was driving throug ha crappy club parking lot in 1992-1994 and Kip and the guys carrying their own crap into the club, I drove right past him.

Did the same thing with Kevin DuBrow in Lubbock - much crappier gig.

I still liked them (QR/Winger), but I was busy and didn't have time to hang, wish I did looking back.

Enjoy the drink when you can, but it can turn around on ya quick, One day you're a cool rebel winkin at the ladies and lookin sly, the nest you're a tubby dude creeping 21 year old girls out [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] When you drunk a lot you don't notice the transition.

I don't want to lecture, but sad and cool has a fine line between her.

BTW, I'm drunk [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

[Drsracing]

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Me tpp

[charveljunkie]

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Back in the day I always had about 4-6 beers before I hit the stage-it helped me loosen up-then it was 6-10 beers-then I played a show and it was the best show ever I even amazed myself I was the greatest that night-until I watched a video of that performance and I SUCKED I mean I really Sucked-I played like shit-so I made a deal with myself to have one or two before one per set 1 beer/1 water-and I really did play alot better tighter and my solo's/appregio's everything was right on-then I realized I don't need to drink to play better it was actually hendered my playing.I was asked up awhile back at a club me and Diablomozart went to and was pretty drunk but I still played ok-I just wishes I would have said no thank-you.Well enough about me and my vices-do this party like you normally do and video it then do the 1 beer/1 water thing and tape it-see how you do [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]