Possible Terrorist Attack in London

[veliyasin]

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If you have the balls to type out bullshit like that, you should have at least let it stand.

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I felt sorry about wishing someone's death and I removed it.

[Deneb]

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You're a Muslim? What does that have to do with what I was saying? You know something? My take no prisoners approach, and my kill them, in the same rotten fashions they kill us in, attitude would get a lot accomplished a lot faster.

Those troops are spilling blood, so YOU have the right to be a Muslim. You remember that.

[veliyasin]

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Those troops are spilling blood, so YOU have the right to be a Muslim. You remember that.

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You can and SHOULD kill the TERRORISTS with any method you want. You can't argue for killing everyone that happens to live around those terrorists and link that to your patriotism [img]/images/graemlins/bs.gif[/img]

Also NO. I have a right to be a Muslim, because I am born to this world and it is my God-given right. No-one can even DARE taking that away from me.

[Deneb]

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Go live over in the middle east, and see if there are any people who have a problem with you being a Muslim. I don't have a problem with it, just as I expect you don't have a problem with me not believing in anything.

Answer me a question, What do you propose we do? Wait kill just people we "know" are terrorists, want wait until their people get around to converting other "good" people into "bad" people to take them out?

Maybe I'm off base in my typing, but I don't mean, Kill every single human there. It comes out that way, and in a way, maybe I deep down mean it, and don't realize it, or maybe I don't and I don't have a better way to vocalize it, but I can say this, and maybe you'll understand.

They run into some "religious" place, and we stop shooting...but they shoot at us...knowing we won't attack them. What the hell is that about? We should just shoot inside, and send them to "allah" a little faster. I don't believe in God, the Devil, Allah, Zeus, Apollo, or Amon Ra, and their religious "monuments" mean dick to me. I'd take that book of theirs, and shove it right in some terrorists throat, the same as I would throw someones book of Morman at them if they were trying to hurt me.

Also, you're incorrect. If you're in America, you have freedoms, because people DIED for those freedoms.

[veliyasin]

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I lived in Middle East for 18 years(Turkey to be exact) and no-one had a problem with me being Muslim.

What you are saying about the US Army not shooting in holy places is a lie because I myself saw a tape of an American soldier killing an insurgent in a mosque. What about that? You said they don't even shoot people nor do they enter mosques? I saw many pictures and video shootings of bombed out mosques. What about those? You are obviously wrong, but still bending the truth to your purposes. The US Army is already operating on the principles you want from them. So what more are you asking? Anything more violent and relentless than this can be seriously considered genocide.

No. I am NOT incorrect. No soldier in any place of the world, nor any person who died in the past for the US has any connection to my religion of choice. I am a Muslim, because I want to be. As simple as that. You want to take that right away from me? I said a couple of messages above, I DARE you.

[toejam]

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Wow, surprised this thread isn't locked or deleted yet with all the bullshit that's going on. [img]/images/graemlins/sleep.gif[/img]

[Deneb]

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I lived in Middle East for 18 years(Turkey to be exact) and no-one had a problem with me being Muslim.

What you are saying about the US Army not shooting in holy places is a lie because I myself saw a tape of an American soldier killing an insurgent in a mosque. What about that? You said they don't even shoot people nor do they enter mosques? I saw many pictures and video shootings of bombed out mosques. What about those? You are obviously wrong, but still bending the truth to your purposes. The US Army is already operating on the principles you want from them. So what more are you asking? Anything more violent and relentless than this can be seriously considered genocide.

No. I am NOT incorrect. No soldier in any place of the world, nor any person who died in the past for the US has any connection to my religion of choice. I am a Muslim, because I want to be. As simple as that. You want to take that right away from me? I said a couple of messages above, I DARE you.

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I'll admit, I don't know the entire story. I DO know for a FACT there are holy places over there, we WON'T fuck with.

Turkey may not have a problem with you, but there are other people in the middle east that will have no problem, having a problem with you.

You live in America. You're protected by the US troops, and the freedoms set forth by our founding fathers. The reason you can practice your religion in America, is because people have died for that right. Believe me, if America had a problem with you being a Muslim, you wouldn't be one. Think about back when everyone was afraid of communism...they would go after anyone that was in the US.

I personally don't care what God you believe in. You can believe in Bono from U2, and I wouldn't care. More power to you. For you to deny that in America, your freedoms are proteced by our soldiers/laws/people et cetera, You're sadly mistaken, and missing out on the reason why everyone wants to come to America. We let people practice what they want, as long as it's within the law, in their pursuit for happiness. If you take that for granted, then you're in America for the wrong reasons.

I have no desire to take away your right to be a Muslim. Why would I? If I did, what would you do? Nothing, because I've NO desire to stop you from being a Muslim.

[veliyasin]

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Bono from U2

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Fuck him.

[Deneb]

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Wow, surprised this thread isn't locked or deleted yet with all the bullshit that's going on. [img]/images/graemlins/sleep.gif[/img]

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Why lock the thread? I don't feel anyone is really crossing any lines, no more than we've done in other threads, and let happen.

Why censor everything, and sugar coat it?

In a nutshell, I don't like the terror attacks, and I think we need to strike HARDER to stop them. I love my America. I may not like every single person, but I'm not required to. My America stands for Freedom at any cost, what does yours stand for?

[Deneb]

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Bono from U2

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Fuck him.

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Something we agree on.

[YetAnotherOne]

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What you are saying about the US Army not shooting in holy places is a lie because I myself saw a tape of an American soldier killing an insurgent in a mosque. What about that? You said they don't even shoot people nor do they enter mosques? I saw many pictures and video shootings of bombed out mosques.

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Tough to avoid mosques when caches of weapons are routinely discovered within them as are enemy fighters who've taken shelter therein. Those circumstances make mosques (or any other location for that matter) fair game. If the folks in charge of any particular mosque would like it to remain outside the battle a great way to accomplish this would be to not allow the bad guys to shelter there, stage operations from there, or use the mosque as a depot. My brother in law is in Iraq now and believe me they were read the riot act about avoiding religious, cultural, and historic sites in any way possible. It's not the Americans who are bringing the battle to the mosques Veli.

[Deneb]

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Maybe I should keep my Kill em all, and let THEIR God sort em out, opinion to myself.

I apologize to all those offended. Unless I've got something constructive to say, I won't post on this thread again. I don't want people's views, posts, or opinions deleted because of me

[veliyasin]

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It's not the Americans who are bringing the battle to the mosques Veli.

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On the same token, it is NOT the Muslims who are bringing this war and terrorism into Western cities. I just want people to understand that, nothing else.

[YetAnotherOne]

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Despite some of the short-fuse opinions here Veli I think most everyone knows that most Muslims aren't bringing terrorism to the west, but some self-professed adherents to Islam are. That's not an issue that no one can address so long as the societies that breed those folks are given a pass on their responsibility for doing so.

[veliyasin]

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I don't think so Brad. When you hear these opinions in so many different places, from so many different people, so many times it kinda becomes obvious that it is nothing short-fused, but it is more like common sense of America today. A lot of people actually do think so. If it was short-fused, a lot of people would have stepped back and though about it for a minute. Just like Deneb did or like I did when I wished Deneb's death for a second, but was reasonable enough to admit my stupidity.