Sharon's beef with Maiden

[Nite_Maresz_25]

Re: Sharon\'s beef with Maiden

IMO sharon's a big bitch, she should worry about running her house/family, not babysitting the grown men playing ozzfest.

[Soap]

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Its obvious, Sharon was/is the problem.

[Number Of The Priest]

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Interesting website:

http://www.fucksharon.com/

No, it's not biased at all! [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

But still an entertaining read. Don't bother downloading the videos... they're of crappy quality and shot from such a far distance that you can't make out ANYTHING other than a fuzzy stage from afar. The speeches are all the same though... nothing you haven't heard already if you've heard the various soundclips posted in this thread.

[skorb]

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here's some gas on the fire! (IM is my favorite metal band and I hate Sharon for this, that's my official position.. LOL)

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Iron Maiden spent its last night on the Ozzfest tour in grand rock ‘n' roll fashion - getting into a full-scale beef with tour organizer Sharon Osbourne, being pelted with eggs and having its sound cut during its August 20th set at Hyundai Pavilion At Glen Helen outside of Los Angeles.
Some might argue that it was Osbourne who got into the beef with Maiden frontman Bruce Dickinson, but nobody seems to be quibbling over reports that some three dozen eggs mysteriously made it past security, into the front rows of the shed and ultimately onto Dickinson and his bandmates as they started their set.
Or that chants of "Ozzy! Ozzy! Ozzy!" were being pumped over the loudspeakers before, during and after Iron Maiden's time on stage.
Or that the same public address system mysteriously malfunctioned for several minutes at a time on at least three occasions, resulting in two songs being stopped altogether.
When it was all over, Sharon Osbourne took to the stage and told the audience that Ozzfest organizers "absolutely loved Iron Maiden and their crew and they are all wonderful, but their singer, Bruce Dickinson, was a prick and had disrespected Ozzfest since they began their stint with the tour."
Whether the animosity was authentic or simple end-of-tour antics, they just don't do rock ‘n' roll backstage wars like this anymore.
Iron Maiden manager Ron Smallwood, claimed the events were staged. "In 30 years in this business and after attending hundreds of gigs, I have never seen anything anywhere near as disgusting and unprofessional as what went on that night," the chairman of Sanctuary Artist Management said.
"The scale, viciousness and concentration of the throwing made it obvious that this was a premeditated and co-ordinated attack. ... You should all be thoroughly ashamed of yourselves."
Smallwood called "the great majority of the Ozzfest crew" terrific and thanked them. He also said "we know" who authorized the "Ozzy" chant and the cutting of power to the stage at what he called "crucial moments."
"We will have no more to say on this matter except that I do think the band deserve an apology from a number of people, and you know who you are," Smallwood concluded.
August 25 brought a written rebuttle from Sharon Osbourne, which most certainly did not include an apology. In an open letter to Smallwood, she stated:

"You claim to have been in the business for 30 years and have been to hundreds of gigs, but can you tell me how many times you have heard of an opening band talking sh*t about the headliner during their set and getting away with it? Not only is Ozzy the headliner, but he is also the man who is paying your band $185,000 a night. We gave Iron Maiden a chance to play to the biggest audiences they have ever played to in the U.S.A. We accommodated them with their stage set and at the band's request we even scoured the audience for people wearing Iron Maiden t-shirts and brought them down front during their set to make them feel more comfortable. Tell me, what other headliner would do that?
"Over the last 10 years of Ozzfest we have worked with over 200 bands. None of them were ever disrespectful to Ozzy or any of the other bands on the tour. But for 20 shows we were forced to hear Dickinson's nightly outbursts from the stage: When we come back to America, we'll be back with a proper sound system or We won t be playing the same old songs every night (like Sabbath), We don t need a teleprompter (like Ozzy) and We don t need a reality show to be legit (again, like Ozzy). Night after night we heard his complaints from the stage about how corporate the venues were and how outrageous the ticket prices were. Strangely enough, if you want to get a general admission ticket to stand in a field to see Iron Maiden at Reading this weekend it s going to cost you over $120. I would say that s very pricey, wouldn t you? "It's shameful that Dickinson felt he had the right to air his issues publicly onstage every night as a way to boost his own ego. Dickinson never once came up to Ozzy and me to voice any concerns. He certainly had the opportunity to do so every night. If he wasn t able to show us that courtesy then why should I give him the respect to air my grievances with him in private? Ozzy s only interaction with Dickinson was on the first night of the tour. Ozzy, being the true gentleman that he is, passed Bruce in the hall and said Good luck and have a great show. Unfortunately Dickinson felt the need to turn his back to Ozzy and walked away. Frankly, Dickinson got what he deserved. We had to listen to his bullsh*t for five straight weeks. He only had to suffer a couple of eggs on the head.
"On closing, yes, I did cut Iron Maiden's sound. This is the way I look at it: Ozzfest is our tour. We built it into something that s lasted 10 years now. We've been responsible for breaking many new bands and resurrecting the careers of former superstars. Part of our success stems from the fact that when a band is on Ozzfest we treat them with nothing but kindness and respect just as if we had invited them into our home. You can ask all of the bands who have been on the tour. They all describe it as the ultimate summer camp. It s like one big family. Unfortunately Dickinson doesn t have the manners to realize that when you are invited into someone's home, are seated at their dinner table, are eating their food and drinking their wine, you shouldn t talk disrespectfully about them (Ozzy, Black Sabbath and Ozzfest), otherwise you just might get your ass handed to you. Every action has a reaction. Was Dickinson so naïve to think that I was going to let him get away with talking sh*t about my family night after night? I don t think he realizes who he's dealing with. I will not endure behavior like this from anyone.
"I know you would love to keep talking about this because this is the most press that Iron Maiden has had in the U.S. in twenty years, but let s move on, shall we?
Sincerely,
The Real Iron Maiden
Sharon Osbourne"

[Soap]

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Theres always two sides to every story.
If any of this (What Sharon is saying) is true, which it would seem theres some truth to it. Than Bruce needed to be put in check, she has very valid points. However, not on stage in front of 40,000 fans.

[Hotrod]

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So I guess her position is "as long as I get the last word and to hell with the fans who paid money to see the show". Nice business sense, bitch. [img]/images/graemlins/eviltongue.gif[/img]

I now stand firm in my belief that I will never put another dime in her pocket. Maybe she was right, maybe not, but either way, the fans (her customers) lost.

[Davey]

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that aint home .. they didnt invite them into their home. that is WORK
they do that for a living. and at work you dont fucking go toss eggs and pur stuff on your coworkers just because they are stating thair opinion. you go to the management and let THEM deal with it.

what sharon did was immature unprofessional and has to get her head cut off

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I do have to add that I saw opening night in Mansfield and was pretty surprised that Bruce appeared to take a shot at Ozzy and Sabbath. He said something to the effect that they (Maiden) were not like other bands who are on a never ending reunion tour, living off their past and not putting out any new music, and that Maiden were a still relevant band that puts out new material and that they were working on a new album, etc.
I saw that as a little shot at Sabbath and was surprised that he would say something like that considering it was Ozzfest and not just a Maiden show. He also made vauge references to the crowd and show being a Maiden show (meaning people were there to only see them)and no mention of Ozzfest or Sabbath. I remember thinking it was pretty ballsy to be taking vailed shots at the headliners day 1.

[lerxstcat]

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that aint home .. they didnt invite them into their home. that is WORK they do that for a living. and at work you dont fucking go toss eggs and pur stuff on your coworkers just because they are stating thair opinion. you go to the management and let THEM deal with it.

[/ QUOTE ]Bruce wasn't a coworker, he was Sharon's employee at $185,000 per night, and she IS the management. Besides, this isn't like going to work at the office or factory, it's a rock festival. Again, if you start shit with someone, don't be surprised if they up the ante. The fans getting their show fucked with, that's bad, but again that isn't unique in the history of rock and metal either. Headliners mess with the openers all the time; it's not pretty, but Sharon isn't the only one who's done it; it's fairly common. You just usually don't see it happen to a band like Maiden because they usually ARE the headliner. And because the bands usually messed with areNOT headliners, but weaker in the music business openers,it doesn't get worldwide press. Many of the PA "failures" you've experienced attending concerts are the headliner's soundman messing with an opener just to fuck with them, or to stop them blowing out the headliner. It doesn't make it right to do, but it's common.

[horns666]

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you guys are going nuts with this one...that's cool


continue..

[lerxstcat]

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I'm not taking Sharon's side against Bruce, Bill; I'm saying they BOTH did shit to fuck this up. She shouldnt have cut the PA, and Bruce shouldn't have insulted Ozzy and Sabbath from the stage, even if he said true things.
If Ozzy went out and said Bruce was a short shit with a chip on his shoulder, well it'd be true, but the Maiden fans would be bent about that and on the same bill it wouldn't be cool.
Show some professional courtesy for your headliner and for the fans who came to see you BOTH.

I'm saying there is plenty of blame to go around and both sides are at fault. It's not just either or. Sharon's easier to hate, but it would never have happened if Bruce had observed professional courtesy on the tour, so he, too, was unprofessional. Now they way they played through the set itself, that WAS professional and admirable. The fact Bruce created the situation that caused it though, was not.

[Hotrod]

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that aint home .. they didnt invite them into their home. that is WORK they do that for a living. and at work you dont fucking go toss eggs and pur stuff on your coworkers just because they are stating thair opinion. you go to the management and let THEM deal with it.

[/ QUOTE ]Bruce wasn't a coworker, he was Sharon's employee at $185,000 per night, and she IS the management. Besides, this isn't like going to work at the office or factory, it's a rock festival. Again, if you start shit with someone, don't be surprised if they up the ante. The fans getting their show fucked with, that's bad, but again that isn't unique in the history of rock and metal either. Headliners mess with the openers all the time; it's not pretty, but Sharon isn't the only one who's done it; it's fairly common. You just usually don't see it happen to a band like Maiden because they usually ARE the headliner. And because the bands usually messed with areNOT headliners, but weaker in the music business openers,it doesn't get worldwide press. Many of the PA "failures" you've experienced attending concerts are the headliner's soundman messing with an opener just to fuck with them, or to stop them blowing out the headliner. It doesn't make it right to do, but it's common.

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I don't know, I've probably been to well over 100 concerts and I haven't exerienced this "PA failure" phenomenon. I've seen screw ups, tirades and just plain idiotic behavior (by bands and fans alike), but I've yet to see anything like this. Maybe I'm just lucky I guess.

And yes, she is the management, just not very good at the PR stuff. After reading her response, it just makes her look even more incompetent. Why did she put up with it for twenty shows? If it was so horrible to endure, why not nip it in the bud early on. I would have. I would have actualy gone to Bruce/Iron Maiden or at least their management and said "Look, this isn't cool at all and if it continues, you can/will be replaced" and then if he did it again, bang, replace them with Velvet Revolver [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]. Had it been handled that way, no one would be talking about it after the fact and Maiden would be the bad guy here (but I bet Bruce would have held his tounge after that). You know, you keep talking about bands messing with other bands, but Sharon isn't a band or a headliner, she's management and that is a professional position.

[horns666]

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OH rich I agree..this is a clusterfuck...a true metal abortion..

and what a surprise Sharon O is involved..what an asshole she is! [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

hey she is money savy but she blows it like MC friggin' Hammer...ahhhh fuck her...dumb phony , greedy bitch... [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]


ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh fuggum! [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

[skorb]

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I don't know, I've probably been to well over 100 concerts and I haven't exerienced this "PA failure" phenomenon. I've seen screw ups, tirades and just plain idiotic behavior (by bands and fans alike), but I've yet to see anything like this. Maybe I'm just lucky I guess.

And yes, she is the management, just not very good at the PR stuff. After reading her response, it just makes her look even more incompetent. Why did she put up with it for twenty shows? If it was so horrible to endure, why not nip it in the bud early on. I would have. I would have actualy gone to Bruce/Iron Maiden or at least their management and said "Look, this isn't cool at all and if it continues, you can/will be replaced" and then if he did it again, bang, replace them with Velvet Revolver [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]. Had it been handled that way, no one would be talking about it after the fact and Maiden would be the bad guy here (but I bet Bruce would have held his tounge after that). You know, you keep talking about bands messing with other bands, but Sharon isn't a band or a headliner, she's management and that is a professional position.

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agreed 100%. instead of dealing with it professionally, she struck back at his abuse in a very childish and stupid way that denigrated her customers. and now 90% of the metal world hates her guts.

[the_drip]

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I can't imagine that's good on equipment..turnign a 1.21 gigawatt PA off and on like a light switch.