Tarja got kicked out of Nightwish

[the_drip]

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why the fuck would he write a letter to Tarja in English? And why is there so many goddamn misspellings?

[Cleveland Metal]

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And why is there so many goddamn misspellings?

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Racer X was busy that night?

[xenophobe]

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Tarja was Nightwish.

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Tarja was a dog wearing too much makeup! [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Good riddance I say.

[sevser]

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The drip...

http://www.nightwish.com/#ENGLISH

Oh yeah..Scroll down for the Deutsch version.

[Child Of Norther]

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why the fuck would he write a letter to Tarja in English? And why is there so many goddamn misspellings?

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The obvious answer is translation.

[donf]

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Selfish, self centered, self absorbed, egocentric bitches

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Thought this was about Axl Rose. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

[iced_earth]

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There is a reply:
(Tarja's Website)
Since last Sunday morning, I have been asked to express my position by magazines, newspapers, radio and TV stations, fan clubs and fans from Finland and from all over the world. So many in total that it is physically impossible for me to find the time to reply to them all individually. Hence I decided to put down a couple of words in this text to let my fans, family and friends and the public know how I feel after the recent events.

This is a moment of grief and pain and I find it very hard to speak.

At the moment I am in Argentina. I hope you can understand that after this shocking life change comparable to a divorce, I didn’t want to stay alone at home in Finland. My husband had booked his tickets to Argentina many months ago and I decided to travel with him at the last minute.

But the fact that I am in Argentina and the long distance should of course not be an excuse not to comment on the situation.

Last Friday 21st of October was a day the whole band had been waiting for a long time.

Practice started early in the morning. I was very sick and nervous because of the fact that I was not even able to sing during the rehearsals.

Also nervous because the concert programme was going to be longer than usual for a Nightwish concert. Furthermore we were going to have a special guest to perform with us, more wardrobe changes for myself than usual and for the first time big screens and bigger production on stage.

Not to forget that the concert was going to be recorded and filmed.

The five of us had finally made it to play Hartwall Arena.

Even though every one of us knew in advance that the concert was sold out, finally on stage, we saw that screaming, applauding and standing people took every seat. The feeling was unbelievable.

I will never forget how amazing it was to experience the Finnish audience’s gorgeous reception.

When the concert was over, I cried of happiness on stage. Happy tears because I was able to do my best as always even though I was sick. Happy tears because our long tour got the greatest possible ending and happy tears because of the best recognition an artist can get: applause and smiling faces.

At that moment I didn’t know that I was going to cry again soon.

After the concert, the guys of the band invited me backstage to join them and asked me to hug altogether. This felt strange as it was the same kind of hug we traditionally came together for before every concert. That tradition remained between us, even though the tension and increasing pressure already existed since a long period of time.

The immediate feeling in me was to thank them, which I did loudly but without any reply.

After this, they gave me a letter and asked me to read it the following day. The same letter that is now public.

I read it and was shocked.

I didn’t know what to say and still at the moment that I am writing these lines, I don’t.

I sense great anger in that letter and I continue to have very confused feelings about it, but I don’t want to reply to this anger with an even greater anger. Private matters should never be taken to the public.

I know this moment we are going through is very sad for everybody, including the guys.

While there would have been so many different possibilities and ways to express what they wanted to tell me with the letter, I remain unable to understand the way they chose to handle this. I am sorry that the guys got me so wrong. I don’t recognize myself at all from the way they described me.

They mentioned mean things about me, but the fact that they involved Marcelo, my husband, crossed the line. He is the man I love, my friend and has been my biggest support over the last years.

We have been band mates for 9 years, experienced good times and not so good ones. I thought I knew them, but I was wrong.

Still everything that has happened is not enough to make them evil in my eyes.

Now comes a time to calm down and reflect upon all of this.

I need to put my feelings together again and I promise to come back to public soon.
I will announce a press conference where I will be talking about my future plans. This doesn’t mean that you should expect this conference to be an instrument to attack anybody. It won’t.

The wonderful music we created together won’t be touched by recent events.

Thanks a lot to all the people who are supporting me during these sad times. My family, friends, colleagues, and the great number of fans. I love you and I really feel I have not failed you.

Tarja

[Infernal Death]

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This is exactly why such talk always should stay band-intern. I mean now is the situation that both sides tell the opposite and nobody besides the people directly involved can say who is right and who is wrong.
I think with a band as professional as nightwish you should have expected that they handle this better than they did. Why not simply say that the split was of private and personal matter and that's it ?
Oh well i never was a fan but that's really childish.

Flo

[the_drip]

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I dont' understadn why they decided to make all this melo-drama public. Are they trying to ruin everybody's career involved in the band? whats the point? if not that.

[pro-fusion]

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Very strange to make it so public, indeed. It sounds like the band felt embarrassed by some recent actions (or non-actions) and wanted to publicly state that it wasn't "their fault." Too bad it ended up this way. The Wishmaster album is a favorite of mine.

If I were to suggest a replacement, how about Floor Jansen from After Forever? She has an amazing voice--more suitable voice for rock delivery than Tarja, plus a huge range that could probably handle the operatic stuff (though maybe not as purely as Tarja). Of course, After Forever just released a new album, so maybe she wouldn't want to leave them.

Also, that chick in Stream of Passion (Arjen Lucassen's new project) has an amazing voice, also, and she's a writer. I don't know if she could handle real operatic vocals, though.

[StarRider]

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The repkly just shows me that as always band issue remain band issues no public hearings
I really think Thomas did cross the line with this public thrashing. I guess he never heard of "Musical Differences"
I think he needs a public kick in the ass
Its very sad how Nightwish has handled this issue

Even back in the day and today as well we never trashed
formed band mates
even if we thought they where total asses

BTW: we axed our drummer a few months ago
and yes we didnt post a load of BS on the Band website

[StarRider]

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Very strange to make it so public, indeed. It sounds like the band felt embarrassed by some recent actions (or non-actions) and wanted to publicly state that it wasn't "their fault." Too bad it ended up this way. The Wishmaster album is a favorite of mine.

If I were to suggest a replacement, how about Floor Jansen from After Forever? She has an amazing voice--more suitable voice for rock delivery than Tarja, plus a huge range that could probably handle the operatic stuff (though maybe not as purely as Tarja). Of course, After Forever just released a new album, so maybe she wouldn't want to leave them.

Also, that chick in Stream of Passion (Arjen Lucassen's new project) has an amazing voice, also, and she's a writer. I don't know if she could handle real operatic vocals, though.

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How bout Simone Simons the firey Red Head from EPICA
shes a total Opera type singer, very good too

[blindmuddy]

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I'm totally bummed due to the fact that Nightwish is my 12 year old twin daughters favorite band. And it's hard to get em to like anything metal. We took em to see em in SF when they palyed and the band was way cool to them. So now they're pissed, it was their first real rock/metal show, and Tarja was flawless live.

[AfterForever]

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How bout Simone Simons the firey Red Head from EPICA
shes a total Opera type singer, very good too

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no way simone should leave epica! epica is my #1 favorite band.. and good friends too. Simone would never leave epica anyway.. Epica's new album (due in 2007) is gonna kick ass, it's will be much heavier than the most recent album [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Floor Jansen isn't going to leave After Forever either. Although the people from AF and NW are good friends, it's not going to happen. AF is doing really well now (in Holland anyway).. I think their new album sucks.

[Chrisb]

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Shocking news to say the least. And while if true this was the absolute worst way to handle the situation. This is the biggest metal drama since Timo Tolki's hilarious mental breakdown some time ago (one hilarious melodramatic situation after another there). Its hard for me to figure who is right here and as with most things the answer is probably in the middle. However the fact that its the rest of the band against Tarja says perhaps what they say has some serious merit. Even so this is the death of Nightwish I think. Tarja was the voice of Nightwish and what made them unique. I think they were poised for a big US break through that now will almost certainly never come to pass.

Without Tarja Nightwish is just another so-so power metal band with some small prog tendencies.