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  • #46
    Re: Wall Street- Bonuses top $20 Billion

    i have a friend who flies for united. a few years ago they organized employee ownership of united across a number of unions. but guess what, they only negotiated common stock. now under bankruptcy protection, united has made that employee ownership disappear. using some well paid lawyers, only the *preferred* shareholders now own equity in united. who would have ever thought that bankruptcy can wipe out your legal ownership of something?

    also, under bankruptcy, they are nuking the pension fund that everyone paid into. in europe, when a company declares bankruptcy, the pension fund is the 1st in line. Here in America, thanks to changes in bankruptcy laws, your pension can go bye bye at the snap of a finger. Who'd ever thunk that we'd allow that here?

    Finally, I had a friend who sold property to a commercial interest. Instead of taking a lump sum, he negotiated a reverse mortgage of sorts. Guess what? The commercial interest successfully declared bankruptcy. They are still in business, but guess whose debt is off their books now?

    Bankruptcy is a tool for the rich and powerful to screw hard working people. The laws behind it are extremely esoteric and non-obvious and are advantageous to only those folks who can afford an army of lawyers. I mean even the United union folks had lawyers who never saw this coming.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKgPY1adc0A

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    • #47
      Re: Wall Street- Bonuses top $20 Billion

      Ok Tommy I think you may be getting a weeeee bit defensive.I never said your brother was cut throat....I do not even know him.I am sorry if that was the impression my post gave you.That big buisness world however is for the most part considered to be a fast paced hard fought (sometimes dirty I am sure) buisness.As I said I do not begrudge folks who go out and make their money......AAAAAND this reply is a shining example of why I dont post on anything more then woooow pretty color ...or is that a Kahler on here [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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      • #48
        Re: Wall Street- Bonuses top $20 Billion

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        fett, smoke a bowl or somethin dude, no need to pop a vein over shit you cannot control bro. [img]/images/graemlins/toast.gif[/img]

        [/ QUOTE ] Those bastards control it. I will not pop a vein. I have all I need. You young pups need to fend for yourselves. [img]/images/graemlins/headbang.gif[/img]
        I am a true ass set to this board.

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        • #49
          Re: Wall Street- Bonuses top $20 Billion

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          ......AAAAAND this reply is a shining example of why I dont post on anything more then woooow pretty color ...or is that a Kahler on here [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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          <font color="aqua"> [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] you, rebel, you......... [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/toast.gif[/img] </font>
          Dave ->

          "would someone answer that damn phone?!?!"

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          • #50
            Re: Wall Street- Bonuses top $20 Billion

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            ......AAAAAND this reply is a shining example of why I dont post on anything more then woooow pretty color ...or is that a Kahler on here [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

            [/ QUOTE ] Kahler is a capitalist pig [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] And works for UAL [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]


            <font color="aqua"> [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] you, rebel, you......... [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/toast.gif[/img] </font>

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            I am a true ass set to this board.

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            • #51
              Re: Wall Street- Bonuses top $20 Billion

              [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] See I told ya ....I am trouble man...I had one of those switchblade combs when I was a kid [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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              • #52
                Re: Wall Street- Bonuses top $20 Billion

                There is something sad about getting your news from PBS, the anti-capitalist station, who has to beg for money to stay on the air.

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                • #53
                  Re: Wall Street- Bonuses top $20 Billion

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                  Sound financial advice from a guy who's home has wheels and a hitch. [img]/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif[/img]

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                  Dude, that's just a lame thing to say.
                  I want REAL change. I want dead bodies littering the capitol.

                  - Newc

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                  • #54
                    Re: Wall Street- Bonuses top $20 Billion

                    Good luck for those who earn a lot of money, I would like to be rich too but I'm too lazy to work my ass off. I've never had a real job and my income is pretty much 0 all the time, luckly my drummer got me into this finance thing one week ago, wohoo I'm actually getting some money right now but still I really don't do anything, the money just comes [img]/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif[/img]
                    "There is nothing more fearful than imagination without taste" - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

                    "To be stupid, selfish and have good health are three requirements for happiness, though if stupidity is lacking, all is lost" - Gustave Flaubert

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                    • #55
                      Re: Wall Street- Bonuses top $20 Billion

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                      It's a different context yes, but he's not breaking his back to make any money off the house. He's not working hard for the money, why should he get it. (that seems to be his reasoning)

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                      I was speaking sarcastically, on the "this is different" -lol
                      Not helping the situation since 1965!

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                      • #56
                        Re: Wall Street- Bonuses top $20 Billion

                        spaceace- none taken, but even george's reply,which is accurate, still does not apply to my brother. he is a bond trader, he does nothing with stock, and nothing with end buyers or customers. his are all corporate deals, and not stock. govenrment bonds are a lot safer supposedly from what i have been told. He is one of us, he just happens to be working down there forever it seems like now. and yes he is kicking ass from his own cultivating. nothing was handed to him. and he asked for nothing.
                        for real.
                        Tommy
                        Not helping the situation since 1965!

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                        • #57
                          Re: Wall Street- Bonuses top $20 Billion

                          hate capitalists? go soak your head then.
                          Not helping the situation since 1965!

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