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Does the US operate any of the major ports? I know China, Denmark, South Korea, and the UK all operate ports currently. It's my understanding that the UK operated ports are the ones being sold to the UAE.
The same security is in place that has been in place since 9/11.
I'm more concerned about this from an economic standard. Shipping is freakin huge industry, and I'm sick of our workers busting their asses to fill pockets overseas.
As to GW, I can't stand him. He spends to much time on easy politics and not enough time on stuff that really affects the average citizen.
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I don't agree with what is going on, but I think everyone has this false idea that our ports are secure now.
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Actually, that's EXACTLY why this is a bad idea. Our ports are NOT secure. Arguably, port security is one of our biggest post-9/11 vulnerabilities. Let's not make an already bad situation EVEN WORSE by allowing arab control of the operations surrounding that vulnerabiity. It defies common logic.
For my friend Tim and anyone who may be confused of my post....this is not the way I REALLY feel about this matter at all..I'm just trying to figure out what kind of pseudo Arab / American angle he's trying to project here.. [img]/images/graemlins/scratchhead.gif[/img]
It's all about the illusion of harmony in a time where he is percieved as a big dick by so many ..and of course he's in the biz getting paid! [img]/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif[/img]
It's a matter of both..I think Bush's intent was to subdue some of the flack of the far left..and this was a haste and desperate move to do so..it backfired..now BOTH sides of the coin strongly disapprove.
Do you want to know what >I< really think...It's Fucked up!!!!...that's what I think..but isn't that a "hateful" thing to say??!! [img]/images/graemlins/brow.gif[/img]
I didn't know we are supposed to be "honest" anymore..it's just not PC right??!! [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
When I'm "honest" I get alot of shit for it sometimes!! [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
Well, I'm still the same ol' "bad" guy..I'm good at it..a little too good I been told..
I thought maybe a more "tolerant" Bill Z Bub would be more suitable to most..I guess Not...it's just not me!! [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
Fuck those Dune Coons.. There is that better!!?? [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
I voted and supported the Bush, but this is one of the most F'd up, WTF kind of BS he pulled out of his ass thus far!! [img]/images/graemlins/bs.gif[/img]
I really can't see any light at the end of the tunnel here..we are balls deep in shit. No matter who the next Prez will be will inherit this mess...and maybe the prez after next..and so on...do you really see an end here...This is big time!
My son Vinny is 11 and I'm worried sick about the draft to be honest...I don't want that! [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
Three suspected terrorist were caught right here in my backyard..this is F'd up!! [img]/images/graemlins/what.gif[/img]
Can you imagine how many is really out there...waiting!!
FUCK! [img]/images/graemlins/eyes.gif[/img]
"Bill, Smoke a Bowl and Crank Van Halen I, Life is better when I do that"
Donnie Swanstrom 01/25/06..miss ya!
"Well, your friend would have Bell's Palsy, which is a facial paralysis, not "Balls Pelsy" like we're joking about here." Toejam's attempt at sensitivity.
I know things are really F'd up John and chaotic for sure man..but what exactly would make me be percieved as a "threat"?..
what I said earlier...I'm trying to figure out the Prez's midset and see where he's going with this....because this is not MY plan for sure..
or how I really feel..
"Bill, Smoke a Bowl and Crank Van Halen I, Life is better when I do that"
Donnie Swanstrom 01/25/06..miss ya!
"Well, your friend would have Bell's Palsy, which is a facial paralysis, not "Balls Pelsy" like we're joking about here." Toejam's attempt at sensitivity.
Yes..it's F'd up..I supported and voted for W...but trying to be PC and please the world can be dangerous, wishy washy biz..well, as we can see....This seems to be his M.O.
This whole thing just seems very "hokey".. [img]/images/graemlins/brow.gif[/img]
Hell I want this country safe and back on it's feet again...things are just bad!!
Hell, you are feeling the effects of that bro.. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
I don't see any light at the end of this mess..I don't..not anytime soon.
We must finish this ..I know that much..but how long will that be..We may not live to see the end of it..seriously! [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
"Bill, Smoke a Bowl and Crank Van Halen I, Life is better when I do that"
Donnie Swanstrom 01/25/06..miss ya!
"Well, your friend would have Bell's Palsy, which is a facial paralysis, not "Balls Pelsy" like we're joking about here." Toejam's attempt at sensitivity.
I understand your concern for Vin. My boys are 7 and 10. You say you support Bush and his actions. The consequences are that your son may very well have to put himself in harms way in 7 years. The last thing I want is for our sons and daughters to have to fight Bush's war.
I want REAL change. I want dead bodies littering the capitol.
our ports have always been the weak link regardless of who contols them. Only a small percentage of container cargo is inspected. Dirty bomb making materials probably have about a 78% chance of getting through undetected.
To take it further they probably don't even need to ship it here, they can go to any university here that has a nuclear program and get whatever they want as the security is so lame there...
I agree with Shawn about our ports..but I believe that risk is even greater than 78%..
everyone talks about tighter security...I walked in and out of the city hospital for almost a week for my Kid..totally unchecked..my whole family did..
they hire 90 year old blind people to hand out visitor passes..nobody got a pass..it's ridiculous!!
I could have blown up the whole freakin' place!
all you would have found in the rubble would be visitor passes and dentures.
"Bill, Smoke a Bowl and Crank Van Halen I, Life is better when I do that"
Donnie Swanstrom 01/25/06..miss ya!
"Well, your friend would have Bell's Palsy, which is a facial paralysis, not "Balls Pelsy" like we're joking about here." Toejam's attempt at sensitivity.
So wait... I don't get it. Because the company is from the UAE, you assume it's a Muslim COMPANY (business entity). Now I can understand. But... What's wrong with letting Arabs into your ports? You really do believ they all want you dead? The sniper was American. Loads of your terrorists were American, and the CIA created most threats you have to deal with now. I don't get what the big scare is about to be honest. I lived in France during a big terrorism wave (though of course not as impressive as 9/11) and I was never scared. I lived in Amsterdam during the Iraq war, and the Netherlands sent troops. We all got death threats and warnings of terrorist attacks and no one was scared. I live in Edinburgh now, another country (Scotland) which sent troops, and the whole of the UK got threats. Again, I never heard of anyone being scared. At least not before the London bombings.
Do you guys even realize the probablity of being affected by terrorism? If you're scared of this you shouldn't even drive, you're much more likely to die of this. Sorry for being cliche. I just don't get why you all act so scared about it. Some of you defend your coutry's actions, and when time comes to pay for the consequences, suddendly everything is black and white and you're the good guys being assaulted. I'll never understand that. Sorry for being harsh but this thread showed a lot of things I really do not understand about the US mentality.
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