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I wouldn't go with Mike's "SAGE WISDOK" quite so quickly it may just very well be your quiet laid back attitude that's attractive to her.
Jason has some great advise.
I wouldn't be at all surprised if she allready knows you're interested in her and is wondering why you're taking so long to approach her.
I understand completely where you're coming from but remember sooner or later the law of averages turns in our favor...good luck
P.S. If you feel funny when your around her and even funnyer away from her you may be in serious trouble!!!!!
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Hey, I fixed that typo!!
And, if you are going to bust on my typing skills, best know that it is ADVICE, not ADVISE....k?? [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
Dude, are you old enough to, or do you guys drink? They don't call it liquid confidence for nothing. Have a couple drinks, relax and go with it. I didn't suggest you maul the girl, just move in and try to give her a kiss when you are alone.
You will know when the time is right, because it will get awkward if you don't go for the kiss.
Mike
Sleep. The sound doesn't collapse to riffs of early eyes either.
Kiss her? thats pretty ballsy, I don't know about that. If she isn't interested than I loose a friendship also.
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Dude, I am not trying to be harsh on you...but it is obvious that you dig this chick. So, don't be a pussy. If you don't get past this initial stage and either get shot down, or make her your girlfriend, you will end up one of these lovesick puppy dog friends of hers. Always wanting her, never having her.
I am telling you, man. I am almost 36 and I know what I am talking about here. I have BEEN THAT GUY.
Mike
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dude, Mike is totally right about this. trust me.
one other thing, guys don't have friends that are girls. they have girls they are dating (fucking) and girls that they may date or want to date but haven't hooked up with yet. only pussies have friends that are girls. sorry, but that's the truth here.
on the other side, girls say they want guy friends, but that is just so they have someone warming up in the bullpen in case their real choice of guy to date (fuck) bails or does not last.
you really need to listen to Tom Leykis (Leykis 101), he will tell you all you need to know.
streaming audio of his syndicated radio show on exactly this topic is here: http://blowmeuptom.com/
don't continue to be a pussy. go for it, or go on to the next one.
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Ummm... yeah, not. I have some great guy friends that are just that, friends - no desire to go anywhere on either side. I know guys that have female friends that they would never even think of kissing, let alone sleep with her.
I hate to say it, but you sound very juvenile and probably have no luck at all with women. Of course, once you grow up you may find out how wrong you are. Not everybody wants to sleep with everyone else!
Get a bottle of Jose, and keep your hands off of her. You will know within the hour if she likes you! [img]/images/graemlins/headbang.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/headbang.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/headbang.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/headbang.gif[/img]
Be cool about it and you will be in.. unless you are a HUGE DORK!! [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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And I hate to say it, if a guy I just know slightly just ramdomly tried to kiss me, even if I did like him, he'd probably get slapped! Treat her with respect!
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Oh, come on. They are young and obviously there is something between them. I didn't tell him to whip his Johnson out!!! [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] Where is the lack of respect in suggesting he try to kiss her when the time is right?
I am just trying to save him some misery, because I was more lame than he claims to be...but I learned.
Mike
Sleep. The sound doesn't collapse to riffs of early eyes either.
You never know what kind of background people have regarding that stuff; she might feel the same way about you that you feel about her, but she may also have some issue in her past where trying to steal a kiss would trigger a flashback of being molested. You just never know.
Don't dive for the muff just yet - do the friendship thing, but let her know she's more than just a "pal", otherwise she'll end up taking you for a brother and telling you about the guy she's going out with and whining to you about this relationship or that relationship, "but you'll always be like a brother to me".
That's the deepest nail in the coffin - knowing she'll never think of you as anything more than that.
Be direct, but be civil. Ask her if she's got a boyfriend. If she says no, ask her if she's interested in having one, but say it in a way that suggests YOU as that boyfriend, not like a "just asking" type of question.
If you try too hard to be her friend, and not try hard enough to be her boyfriend, then you'll be stuck in her "just a friend" column.
Remember, just because you're dating doesn't mean you have to bone. You can still go and do things as friends like movies, coffee, lunch, or whatever, but at least you'll have it "in stone" that you and her are dating in the event someone else asks either of you out.
I want to depart this world the same way I arrived; screaming and covered in someone else's blood
The most human thing we can do is comfort the afflicted and afflict the comfortable.
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one other thing, guys don't have friends that are girls. they have girls they are dating (fucking) and girls that they may date or want to date but haven't hooked up with yet. only pussies have friends that are girls. sorry, but that's the truth here.
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truth my ass, I have a lot of firends who are girls (even more than guys), I would never sleep with them, yes they are hot has hell but NO, it would ruin the firendship.
And I think I'm not a pussy, I get a lot of pussy, that's for sure. I live on one night stands and also I have many sex-partners (kinda like girlfriends but there are no talking, obligations etc. only sex)
"There is nothing more fearful than imagination without taste" - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
"To be stupid, selfish and have good health are three requirements for happiness, though if stupidity is lacking, all is lost" - Gustave Flaubert
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Ummm... yeah, not. I have some great guy friends that are just that, friends - no desire to go anywhere on either side. I know guys that have female friends that they would never even think of kissing, let alone sleep with her.
I hate to say it, but you sound very juvenile and probably have no luck at all with women. Of course, once you grow up you may find out how wrong you are. Not everybody wants to sleep with everyone else!
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this is of course the normal reaction to this from most women. I understand you disagree, but the fact remains that generally this is how things work. I'm glad to hear you are the exception. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
and I'm long since grown up and married with kids and a house and pets and all that, and looking back on it, I know now that I did it all the wrong way, to my detriment. so if I can steer other guys away from the mistakes that I made, then so much the better.
you should check out the Tom Leykis show, you'll probably hate it to begin with but inevitably the logic of what he is telling people wins out. one of those things is that marriage brings zero benefit to men, but plenty of benefits to women. that kind of statement makes most women very uncomfortable because it is against everything women want men to know, and it is also quite true.
the guitar players look damaged - they've been outcasts all their lives
Kiss her? thats pretty ballsy, I don't know about that. If she isn't interested than I loose a friendship also.
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Dude, I am not trying to be harsh on you...but it is obvious that you dig this chick. So, don't be a pussy. If you don't get past this initial stage and either get shot down, or make her your girlfriend, you will end up one of these lovesick puppy dog friends of hers. Always wanting her, never having her.
I am telling you, man. I am almost 36 and I know what I am talking about here. I have BEEN THAT GUY.
Mike
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dude, Mike is totally right about this. trust me.
one other thing, guys don't have friends that are girls. they have girls they are dating (fucking) and girls that they may date or want to date but haven't hooked up with yet. only pussies have friends that are girls. sorry, but that's the truth here.
on the other side, girls say they want guy friends, but that is just so they have someone warming up in the bullpen in case their real choice of guy to date (fuck) bails or does not last.
you really need to listen to Tom Leykis (Leykis 101), he will tell you all you need to know.
streaming audio of his syndicated radio show on exactly this topic is here: http://blowmeuptom.com/
don't continue to be a pussy. go for it, or go on to the next one.
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Ummm... yeah, not. I have some great guy friends that are just that, friends - no desire to go anywhere on either side. I know guys that have female friends that they would never even think of kissing, let alone sleep with her.
I hate to say it, but you sound very juvenile and probably have no luck at all with women. Of course, once you grow up you may find out how wrong you are. Not everybody wants to sleep with everyone else!
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You are woefully naive.
It is the 100% truth, in most circumstances. Most girls that guys are friends with are either girls they already slept with, but for some reason aren't sleeping with now...wanted to sleep with but ended up as friends, still want to sleep with and are holding out for that, or came with their current girlfriend...so they are tolerated, or they are lusted after.
This is really, honestly what men are like. I am not making this stuff up. Don't delude yourself.
Mike
Sleep. The sound doesn't collapse to riffs of early eyes either.
"Remember, just because you're dating doesn't mean you have to bone".
You're absolutely right Newc! That's what porno is all about. When you can't bone, just watch some PORN! [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
Mike - Thanks for speaking up for me bud. It's good to know that I'm safely lumped in with every guy that thinks with his pecker or is addicted to muff like a dog running down the street. [img]/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif[/img]
I want to depart this world the same way I arrived; screaming and covered in someone else's blood
The most human thing we can do is comfort the afflicted and afflict the comfortable.
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