My dilemma

[Newc]

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Why try to kiss her at all this early in the relationship? Why not just ask her if she wants to be bf/gf? What's the kiss for, like signing your name on a contract? Is it supposed to "seal the deal"?
Or is it just a hormonally-driven impulse to infer the desire to bone?

[jjw]

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fucking BS mike-dont confuse acting as an animal as acting as a male.

[MBreinin]

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Kiss her? thats pretty ballsy, I don't know about that. If she isn't interested than I loose a friendship also.

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Dude, I am not trying to be harsh on you...but it is obvious that you dig this chick. So, don't be a pussy. If you don't get past this initial stage and either get shot down, or make her your girlfriend, you will end up one of these lovesick puppy dog friends of hers. Always wanting her, never having her.

I am telling you, man. I am almost 36 and I know what I am talking about here. I have BEEN THAT GUY.

Mike

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dude, Mike is totally right about this. trust me.

one other thing, guys don't have friends that are girls. they have girls they are dating (fucking) and girls that they may date or want to date but haven't hooked up with yet. only pussies have friends that are girls. sorry, but that's the truth here.

on the other side, girls say they want guy friends, but that is just so they have someone warming up in the bullpen in case their real choice of guy to date (fuck) bails or does not last.

you really need to listen to Tom Leykis (Leykis 101), he will tell you all you need to know.
streaming audio of his syndicated radio show on exactly this topic is here:
http://blowmeuptom.com/

don't continue to be a pussy. go for it, or go on to the next one.
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Ummm... yeah, not. I have some great guy friends that are just that, friends - no desire to go anywhere on either side. I know guys that have female friends that they would never even think of kissing, let alone sleep with her.

I hate to say it, but you sound very juvenile and probably have no luck at all with women. Of course, once you grow up you may find out how wrong you are. Not everybody wants to sleep with everyone else!

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You are woefully naive.

It is the 100% truth, in most circumstances. Most girls that guys are friends with are either girls they already slept with, but for some reason aren't sleeping with now...wanted to sleep with but ended up as friends, still want to sleep with and are holding out for that, or came with their current girlfriend...so they are tolerated, or they are lusted after.

This is really, honestly what men are like. I am not making this stuff up. Don't delude yourself.

Mike

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Actually, one of my best girlfriends was actually Todd's friend first - and neither of them wants to sleep with the other - in fact Todd has lot of female friends that he doesn't want to sleep with and they don't want to sleep with him. No every guys wants to sleep with all of his female friends and vice versa - for some of us that would be like sleeping with a sibling!

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And perhaps Tood is an excellent liar. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Men are as faithful as their options.

End of story.

However, there are exceptions. For me, these are the "friends that came with your current girlfriend" girls. No, I don't want to sleep with most of them. I also don't call them up to hang out too often.

Mike

[Jason1212]

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In all honesty it is a great thing to have girls that are just friends. When girls see that you can have a platonic relationship with other girls they are less intimidated by you. They feel that you have your inner horndog in check are not afraid that you will hump their leg once you're alone.

[MBreinin]

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fucking BS mike-dont confuse acting as an animal as acting as a male.

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What did I do now??

You know, I gave him some good advice initially. It is sad, because now it is going to go unheeded because this has become some sort of New Age vs. Oversexed guy thread.

All I have done is stated some basic facts about men. I am not a date raper or some kind of girl mauler. I was a very shy guy for years, and I know what suffering is about. I was actually trying to help him avoid pain...not turn him into a monster.

Jesus fucking christ!!!! [img]/images/graemlins/eviltongue.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Mike

[Endrik]

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fucking BS mike-dont confuse acting as an animal as acting as a male.

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so why almost every guy says "I'd hit it" when a hot chick's pic is posted, do you know what that really means?

[bonghits]

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fucking BS mike-dont confuse acting as an animal as acting as a male.

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so why almost every guy says "I'd hit it" when a hot chick's pic is posted, do you know what that really means?

[/ QUOTE ]Good one Endrik! [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

[Tekky]

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And perhaps Tood is an excellent liar. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Men are as faithful as their options.

End of story.

However, there are exceptions. For me, these are the "friends that came with your current girlfriend" girls. No, I don't want to sleep with most of them. I also don't call them up to hang out too often.

Mike

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Calling me a liar? I don't need to lie to my wife. Nor have I. If you do, well, that's your deal. If you're not married, well... good luck with that.

You seriously need to stop generalizing. I have had female friends that I wanted to sleep with (and some I did, yes, my wife knows it) and I have female friends that I don't want to sleep with. But it is not a given that if a man has a female friend he instantly wants to sleep with her.

[bonghits]

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fucking BS mike-dont confuse acting as an animal as acting as a male.

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What did I do now??

You know, I gave him some good advice initially. It is sad, because now it is going to go unheeded because this has become some sort of New Age vs. Oversexed guy thread.

All I have done is stated some basic facts about men. I am not a date raper or some kind of girl mauler. I was a very shy guy for years, and I know what suffering is about. I was actually trying to help him avoid pain...not turn him into a monster.

Jesus fucking christ!!!! [img]/images/graemlins/eviltongue.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Mike

[/ QUOTE ]It's all good Mike. I understood what you were getting at when you first offered your advice. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[Outlander]

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I know I'm going to get severely flamed for this but I believe SEX is highly overated.
Now in my own defense I will say my opinion was much differant 20 years or so ago:-)

The emotion of true love far surpasses any physical experience

[jjw]

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hey mike not having a go at you mate-i can be an animal like any other male on the planet-i am normaly a good judge with the ladies,always showing them respect(unless there filthy tarts then i change tatics)

[Newc]

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I know I'm going to get severely flamed for this but I believe SEX is highly overated.
Now in my own defense I will say my opinion was much differant 20 years or so ago:-)

The emotion of true love far surpasses any physical experience

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Thank you.

I've said for years that sex without love is just masturbation. Glad to see there's still a few of "us" that think along the same lines.

[Endrik]

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I know I'm going to get severely flamed for this but I believe SEX is highly overated.
Now in my own defense I will say my opinion was much differant 20 years or so ago:-)

The emotion of true love far surpasses any physical experience

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it depends, my hormones are HYPER active, hey I even have papers from the hospital to prove that [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
so I need to satisfy those certain needs all the time
I truly admit that I'm a horny SOB.
Sex and music are my only addictions, I can't live without them, other then that I'm a clean guy [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[horns666]

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I haven't read ANY of this stuff just the question involved..since this appears to be another locker room "thang" or close to it...Well, when in Rome..

eat her ass?? [img]/images/graemlins/scratchhead.gif[/img]

yep, "eaterass"..just one word! [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

[MBreinin]

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And perhaps Tood is an excellent liar. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Men are as faithful as their options.

End of story.

However, there are exceptions. For me, these are the "friends that came with your current girlfriend" girls. No, I don't want to sleep with most of them. I also don't call them up to hang out too often.

Mike

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Calling me a liar? I don't need to lie to my wife. Nor have I. If you do, well, that's your deal. If you're not married, well... good luck with that.

You seriously need to stop generalizing. I have had female friends that I wanted to sleep with (and some I did, yes, my wife knows it) and I have female friends that I don't want to sleep with. But it is not a given that if a man has a female friend he instantly wants to sleep with her.

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I was being facetious..thus the laughing icon there.

You are correct, not every woman a man meets or knows stirs his desire. However, if a man initiates a friendship, it is because 99% of the time he wants to sleep with her.

I have been married. I was engaged to the girlfriend I had before my wife, she was my first serious girlfriend. I am engaged now.

I have never had a one night stand.

I have never abused a girl.

However, I learned rather late in my 20's the way men really are, learned the reality and embraced it.

All I was doing was trying to help him out, because I know exatly where he is coming from...and have been there many times.

Mike

p.s. Newc, you are full of shit. Sex is sex. With love it is a better experience, but it is far from masterbation in the absence of love.