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    I thought this was interesting.... I am NOT trying to start a political debate, just thought you guys might like this....

    > Let's put tax cuts in terms everyone can understand.
    >
    > Suppose that every day, ten men go out for dinner The bill for all ten comes to $100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something like this:
    >
    > The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing.
    >
    > The fifth would pay $1.
    >
    > The sixth would pay $3
    >
    > The seventh $7.
    >
    > The eighth $12.
    >
    > The ninth $18.
    >
    > The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59.
    >
    > So, that's what they decided to do.
    >
    > The ten men ate dinner in the restaurant every day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a curve.
    >
    > "Since you are all such good customers," he said, "I'm going to reduce the cost of your daily meal by $20."
    >
    > Now dinner for the ten only cost $80. The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes. So, the first four men were unaffected. They would still eat for free
    >
    > But what about the other six, the paying customers? How could they divide the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his 'fair share'?
    >
    > The six men realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they subtracted that from everybody's share, then the fifth man and the sixth man would each end up being 'PAID' to eat their meal.
    >
    > The restaurant owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man's bill by roughly the same amount, and he proceeded to work out the amounts each should pay.
    >
    > And so:
    >
    > The fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% savings).
    >
    > The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33% savings).
    >
    > The seventh now paid $5 instead of $7 (28% savings).
    >
    > The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% savings).
    >
    > The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 (22% savings).
    >
    > The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% savings).
    >
    > Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four continued to eat for free. But once outside the restaurant, they began to compare their savings.
    >
    > "I only got a dollar out of the $20," declared the sixth man. He pointed to the tenth man "but he got $10!"
    >
    > "Yeah, that's right," exclaimed the fifth man. "I only saved a dollar, too. It's unfair that he got ten times more than me!"
    >
    > "That's true!!" shouted the seventh man. "Why should he get $10 back when I got only $2? The wealthy get all the breaks!"
    >
    > "Wait a minute," yelled the first four men in unison. "We didn't get anything at all. The system exploits the poor!" The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up.
    >
    > The next night the tenth man didn't show up for dinner, so the nine sat down and ate without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They didn't have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill!
    >
    > And that, boys and girls, journalists and college professors, is how our tax system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up at the table anymore.
    >
    > DavidR.Kamerschen, Ph.D
    >
    > Distinguished Professor of Economics

  • #2
    Interesting view on it. I hate politics and all that too on forums, but interesting way of looking at it none the less

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    • #3
      Sorry for the large font.... I copied and pasted from my email....

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      • #4
        Ya kiddin me man, my eyes are still adjusting after the lasik, thank you!

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        • #5
          Interesting.

          I take it, you're in the "10th man" category, wulfe13?
          Henrik
          AUDIOZONE.DK - a guitar site for the Jackson and Charvel fan

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          • #6
            I loved that story.
            Reminds me of a story in UK half a year ago where an investment banker had a massive party / bender with loads of his mates and racked up a £45k bill in a nightclub from champange and then later cleaning charges.
            On onslaught of letters came into the tabloid red top papers saying that "people like us are hard working class families etc.. its disgusting people have that much money to throw around and waste, they should tax them more and it would help everybody". The next day a bloke wrote in reply to her (slightly socialist comments) and said "I think you are being very unfair, if this guy earns enough to waste 45k on one night than chances are he is paying 40% tax on the vast majority of his earnings (as opposed to 25% for you). All in all this means that people like him are infact paying perhaps 10times his fair share of tax and hence it is his income that is paying for you and your familys public facilities (health, schools etc..) so cut him some slack."
            Also i dont agree with the restaraunt owners method for splitting up the $20. Surely he should give everybody a slice of the 20 proportional the the bill they were paying. i.e. the rich guy should get 11.80 off his meal. I assume is meant to be a jibe at the way things are divided up fairly in the US! I would be interested to know how those discounts were calculated.
            I think its funny how the story plays on the stereo types that the poor dont understand economics and immediately want to beat up the rich guy.
            If you wake up in the morning, it's because Jack Bauer spared your life.

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            • #7
              Kamerschen is not the author

              http://www.snopes.com/business/taxes/howtaxes.asp
              "Quiet, numbskulls, I'm broadcasting!" -Moe Howard, "Micro-Phonies" (1945)

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              • #8
                Originally posted by jackson1
                Interesting.

                I take it, you're in the "10th man" category, wulfe13?
                :ROTF: I wish...




                Ron, I didn't care if the author was really who it said he was or not. I just liked the message.

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                • #9
                  Ain't that the truth, it kills me that the ones who don't pay into the system at all, do most of the bitching about the gov. not treating them fairly,
                  I say the boy ain't right!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by wulfe13
                    I just liked the message.
                    Not casting aspersions, dude, I just like finding Snopes articles!
                    "Quiet, numbskulls, I'm broadcasting!" -Moe Howard, "Micro-Phonies" (1945)

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                    • #11
                      I live in the most heavily taxed region in the world (seriously): Flanders, Belgium.

                      But I'm not complaining one bit. Corruption and whatnot are inevitable but I enjoy our social security, subsidised matters and safe region so don't change a winning team.
                      You took too much, man. Too much. Too much.

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                      • #12
                        That is actually pretty darm close to the tax structure we have in place today. Before Ronald Regan, it was even worse.

                        Matt

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