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  • #1

    Arch Enemy / Nevermore / Hate Eternal

    Hate Eternal played...
    A lot of songs from the new record
    Obscure Terror
    Servants Of The Gods
    Other stuff

    Had some tech problems at the start with Talley's monitoring. Talley played well, and it was really funny because he had like cheat sheets written out for him and he had some little handbills posted in the bathroom advertising that he was selling DVDs of him jamming with Dying Fetus, Black Dahlia, and a couple other bands. Hate Eternal sounded pretty good, very heavy and very defined in terms of guitar tones (ENGL Powerball), vocals were a bit harder to decipher but I think that has a lot to do with Rutan's style. Didn't really hear the bass that much, but the bassist did some great backing vocals and definitely was performing.


    Nevermore played...
    Final Product
    I Voyager
    Poison Godmachine
    Dead Heart In A Dead World (without introduction)
    Engines Of Hate
    Born

    Nevermore, drums sounded good, but Van always sounds good. Couldn't hear Steve Smyth at all (Woohoo Krank!), Loomis played well as always but was having trouble keeping his guitar in tuneafter the second or third song, but it didn't effect his performance. Warrel didn't sound that good, especially in the new material and any high screams. Right before Nevermore took the stage, they announced that Jim Sheppard wouldn't be playing bass with the band, as he had a medical emergency, but it wasn't anything life threatening... I heard through some other people that he broke at least 2 fingers (some people were saying 4) either the day of the show or the day before.


    Arch Enemy played
    Dead Bury Their Dead
    Ravenous
    Burning Angel
    Bury Me An Angel
    Bridge Of Destiny (just the outro, and it was scaled out to like a good minute and a half)
    The Immortal
    A lot of bad songs from the last two albums

    Arch Enemy. Older songs were good, guitar tones were pretty poor (again, Krank), but I could at least hear the lead work. Daniel Erlandsson's talents are being wasted playing these pseudo nu metal songs. Their new songs are really boring and their fans are obnoxious. Next concert I go to where the person on stage tells people to "JUMP!" I swear... I'm walking out.

    Chimaira played, but I was already home by the time they took the stage
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  • #2
    Too bad about Arch Enemy, they were great last time I saw 'em....which has been about 2 or 3 years, when Chris was in the band. That jump sh*t sucks, what is this, Soulfly?
    "Quiet, numbskulls, I'm broadcasting!" -Moe Howard, "Micro-Phonies" (1945)

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    • #3
      Was that when they did a couple one off shows in the states? They did one up in Seattle as well, and it was much better than this performance. 5150's + Drunk Mike Amott + Drunk Sharlee DiAngelo + Happy Chris Amott = Awesome performance

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      • #4
        i can't comment on AE as i've never seen em live, but i seriously doubt that nevermore had a bad sound just because of the krank amps. when i saw em on the euro TGE tour they were using 3ch dual rectos, and also sounded like crap - jeff moreso than steve. they played the learning and i swear i could pick out what the guitars were doing because i know that song by heart
        actually, on the contrary, when i saw god forbid (CRAPPY band ) opening for the haunted, they were both using krankenstein heads, and had the best sound of that night. quite reminiscent of exodus - tempo of the damned, which i guess is quite a realistic comparison anyways, as andy sneap has said more than once that esp. the revolution head sounds damn close to gary holt's modded marshall (which is a piece of art imho).

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Fragle
          i can't comment on AE as i've never seen em live, but i seriously doubt that nevermore had a bad sound just because of the krank amps. when i saw em on the euro TGE tour they were using 3ch dual rectos, and also sounded like crap - jeff moreso than steve. they played the learning and i swear i could pick out what the guitars were doing because i know that song by heart
          actually, on the contrary, when i saw god forbid (CRAPPY band ) opening for the haunted, they were both using krankenstein heads, and had the best sound of that night. quite reminiscent of exodus - tempo of the damned, which i guess is quite a realistic comparison anyways, as andy sneap has said more than once that esp. the revolution head sounds damn close to gary holt's modded marshall (which is a piece of art imho).

          I never said they sounded like crap, Smyth just wasn't cutting in the mix that well. Loomis cut real well, but I couldn't hear Smyth at all. Loomis's low B riffing was muddy, but when they played Poison Godmachine (which doesn't use that low B at all) he sounded a lot more clear. Again, didn't hear Smyth at all the whole night.

          Arch Enemy's tone just was really thin up until they started soloing. Both Mike and the new guy (as well as Jeff Loomis) had good lead tones, but they all used effects of some sort when kicking into the leads. I know Loomis had a pedal board with 3 or 4 of the digitech stompboxes, Amott had a phaser of some sort and a wah on stage, didn't get to see what the other guy was running. Their 5150 tone was much more massive and in your face. Interestingly enough, Amott didn't seem to be pushing a ton of gain. My favorite Krank tone live has been Soilwork's tone.

          I think Sneap could make a Gorilla amp sound great. The old Enemies Of Reality vs. the Remix is a classic example of Sneap's abilities. He's very talented.

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          • #6
            "I know Loomis had a pedal board with 3 or 4 of the digitech stompboxes,"
            when i saw em last year i was like 2 ft away from jeff, so i could see everything. back then he had the 5 button fs for his recto (which he only used for switching from channel 1 to 3, he didn't use the fx loop, solo boost, or 2nd channel at all), a boss tu-2, a digitech tone driver overdrive pedal (pretty much all controls set at noon) used for a solo boost (although he often forgot to turn it off ) as well as a digitech chorus for clean parts.

            "The old Enemies Of Reality vs. the Remix is a classic example of Sneap's abilities."
            i think it's much rather an example of gray's inability

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            • #7
              Question Fragle: Did you whip out pen & paper right there, or did you memorize that?

              I often check out the gear at a concert but a lot of times it is too chaotic to write stuff down. At the first Ozzfest I attended, I was writing setlists on my paper money!
              "Quiet, numbskulls, I'm broadcasting!" -Moe Howard, "Micro-Phonies" (1945)

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              • #8
                Yeah those Kranks did NOT "project" at all..I saw Nevermore with Opeth..I heard Jeff's solos and that's about it..his rythm tone was MUSH for the first time I saw them..and I saw them ALOT!!

                He needs to go back to the recto if you ask me..!!

                Chris need to get his ass back in AE and BOTH need to play 5150s again..

                Fuck those Kranks...peices of muddy shit!!!!
                "Bill, Smoke a Bowl and Crank Van Halen I, Life is better when I do that"
                Donnie Swanstrom 01/25/06..miss ya!

                "Well, your friend would have Bell's Palsy, which is a facial paralysis, not "Balls Pelsy" like we're joking about here." Toejam's attempt at sensitivity.

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                • #9
                  "and I saw them ALOT!!
                  He needs to go back to the recto if you ask me..!!"
                  he only used the recto for the last 2 tours (TGE and EoR). prior to that he used a rack setup based around the line 6 pod pro which he bought because tim calvert started using a flextone II head, and before that he used the digitech valve fx preamp (same preamp that was used for the s/t debut record which is actually 2 sets of demos sellotaped together). he also used to use a sonic maximizer back in his rack days; he stopped using it when he first switched to tube amps. however, apparently he's back to BBE, as he's using the sonic stomp with his kranks.
                  btw, he said that he used to use solid state rack units for such a long time because of reliability reasons. on more than one occasion he'd come home from a tour to find that his whole rack was basically just hanging on one screw.
                  i'd really love to try a krank, as i'm really curious whether all the internet bashing is true or just that, internet rumors (fed by HCAF? )

                  "Chris need to get his ass back in AE "
                  agreed

                  "Question Fragle: Did you whip out pen & paper right there, or did you memorize that?
                  I often check out the gear at a concert but a lot of times it is too chaotic to write stuff down. At the first Ozzfest I attended, I was writing setlists on my paper money!"
                  nah, i memorized that. when the haunted came through town i even remembered their amp settings - pretty tough, as i didn't know which control did what when i looked at their 5150 II heads i was only familiar with the 5150 I
                  however, i couldn't remember setlists even if my life depended on it. hell, i can't even remember my band's setlist (which was changed exactly twice during the last 2 years....) so go figure

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