RATT - Behind The Music!!

[skorb]

well it's not on 5/6, I just checked the schedule on VH1.com and it is not there. they don't have any schedules up beyond that date at this time. so probably 5/11 like was mentioned above.

[mwm70]

Ratt is plenty deserving. They were a centerpiece of 80's metal and they had interesting behind the scenes stuff that makes these shows interesting...as well as tragedy. They don't do these shows on boring bands...

Pantera? Well, they certainly had a tragedy.....can't say much else.

Mike

Huh?????

Ratt was a good band for their time and deserve the recognition, but to say Pantera did nothing interesting other than Dimebag's murder is silly. They were influential in keeping true metal alive through the dark ages (mid-late 90s) putting out quality new material and not living in the past. Pantera deserves it as much as Metallica, Poison or any of the other bands before.

Mike

[Endrik]

Pantera was one of the most influental bands for post 80's metal (Nu Metal, Hardrcore-Metal, modern Thrash etc.)

[Metalcop]

Kev, you are welcome too, of course. Be prepared for some good natured ribbing if you bring any Kahlered guitars with you! Mike hates Kahlers even more than me, if that's possible, lol!! WAAF doesn't really come in very well, otherwise I would listen to it. That was all I listened to when I was a kid, curious thing, I lived further away from Boston than I do now? I think in those days 'AAF's output was greater (more wattage or whatever). Gratuitous pics of mantown will follow, when its done, probably another month or so.

ps. This thread is about RATT -BHM, not which band is better or more influention Ratt or Pantera. Both bands kick ass, just different times of popularity and different genres. Lets leave it at that.

[Endrik]

I'm a huge fan of both bands, can't decide wich one "rules" more, ok 'nuff of that....

now, let's talk about how much kahlers suck

[MBreinin]

Huh?????

Ratt was a good band for their time and deserve the recognition, but to say Pantera did nothing interesting other than Dimebag's murder is silly. They were influential in keeping true metal alive through the dark ages (mid-late 90s) putting out quality new material and not living in the past. Pantera deserves it as much as Metallica, Poison or any of the other bands before.

Mike

No, I'm not saying that Dime's murder was the only significant thing that Pantera should be known for. I realize they have alot of fans, made a large impact in the post hair days, helped move Cookie Monster vocals into the mainstream, all that wizbang.

I just think they sucked.

Mike

[Endrik]

Pantera was a hairband too, they just changed their image in the right time, they would have been dead otherwise durning the 90's

[MBreinin]

Pantera was a hairband too, they just changed their image in the right time, they would have been dead otherwise durning the 90's

Yeah, I know...I have heard their early stuff and seen some early videos...Dime with a Charvel, even.

I actually thought that stuff was pretty good. It was the Stuff with Phil Anselmo that I really didn't get.

I guess I just don't respond to that kind of music.

Mike

[hammer84]

I just think they sucked.

Mike

+1

They may have had an influence on the 'guitar player' types, but no where near the affect RATT had in the '80's. I would bet that most non-metal heads can't name one song or one member of Pantera.

[skorb]

+1

They may have had an influence on the 'guitar player' types, but no where near the affect RATT had in the '80's. I would bet that most non-metal heads can't name one song or one member of Pantera.

I love Ratt, but never liked Pantera at all.
the cookie monster vocals voided them out for me.

[IrfaanSE801]

+1

They may have had an influence on the 'guitar player' types, but no where near the affect RATT had in the '80's. I would bet that most non-metal heads can't name one song or one member of Pantera.

Different generations of music I say. People a tad older than me appreciate Ratt MUCH more than I do although I still like em. I don't think one is better or bigger than the other, each made a big impact on different generations of people

[kmanick]

I amazed people are even comparing these 2 bands.
both Kicked ass , but kicked it in completely different ways.
I listen to both bands all the time.
Phil's voice grows on you but I understand, I know a lot of people who tell me to turn that "sh*t" off initially, but they have so many great grooves in their songs that they eventually get into it (at least a little)
I'm not a big fan of Phils either, but I really like the band.
dimes brother is (Vinny paul?) Is a f*cking GREAT drummer that no one ever seems to mention. Panteras rhythm section is totally kick ass.

[sully]

that's been my pantera experience to a T. i had to build up a phil tolerance. glad i did b/c i would have missed out on some great (and fun to listen to) guitar work.

sully

[VitaminG]

+1

They may have had an influence on the 'guitar player' types, but no where near the affect RATT had in the '80's. I would bet that most non-metal heads can't name one song or one member of Pantera.

that might be your experience, but over here in the late 90s you might see one old guy wearing an Out Of The Cellar shirt compared to the hundreds of kids you would see getting around in Pantera Ts.

Even today, it seems that I see a Pantera shirt every other day. Even if most folks don't listen to them, there's still that brand recognition amongst the general public, if only because so many young'uns still wear the t-shirts.

fwiw, my Pantera experience is much like sully's. Had to build up a Phil tolerance before I could enjoy the rest of the bands playing. Otherwise, I would go make a coffee when Walk came on HBB.

[Badseed]

I got into Pantera when they were glam. 1st lp i bought was "I am the night" in1985-86, bought projects in the jungle and lost track of them until Cowboys.

My fave cd is PowerMetal.

As for Ratt, I got into them just a few years before that and have been a fan ever since.I havent had cable in awhile but will have it when i Move into my townhome this weekend, just in time for METAL MONTH !

Both bands deserve BTM.Both were influential to 1,000's of metal heads and both sold millions.BTW, they both had singers who were considered "aquired tastes", but I liked them right away.