Soul Patrol!!!

[hippietim]

Was I the only one that thought more than half of the finale show pretty much sucked?

The award thing was stupid, some of the medleys were really bad, I never need to hear Chicken Little or Ace sing again, the Wolfgang Puck thing was stupid, the Fuel thing was terrible, whoever that was that sang with Elliot was not even in the same town as the key to the song, etc. I'm very glad I have a fast-forward on my DVR.

Prince was cool though.

[BTB007]

Chris performing with Live was sweet.
Sorry, but when Taylor is singing it looks like he's constipated and trying his best to poop...

[hippietim]

Chris performing with Live was sweet.
Sorry, but when Taylor is singing it looks like he's constipated and trying his best to poop...

Live? I thought it was Fuel. Whoops. Either way that was horrible dude. Chris sang flat and the Live singer was sharp and has a terrible falsetto. They did look pretty funny together though - it was entertaining.

[Chrisb]

I thought Chris and Live was just fucking horrendous. Chris doesn't have the chops the Live guy has, which says little. Toni Braxton humping Taylor is something I never have to see again. Mary J Blige just completely pushed Elliot aside which pissed me off. Meatloaf was fucking scary but Kat's dress made it worth watching. Who was good? Katharine was great on almost all her songs, Elliot was great on all his stuff, Taylor was very hit or miss. Most of the other kids were good except for damn Ace and the stupid one from North Carolina. Bucky has an awesome voice. Anyone else think he kinda has a James Hetfield kinda sound?

The best three of the night were actually guest people. Carrie was awesome which suprised the hell out of me. I was really hoping for Bo to win last year but Carrie proved her worth tonight, she is like a totally different performer. She is no longer stiff and wooden, she looks amazing and sang terrific. Clay Aiken, wether one likes his vocal style or not is still probably one of the best voices the show has ever had. And fucking Prince. The man hasn't aged since the 80's and he was pretty damn near flawless vocally to my ears.

I liked Taylor from the start, and Kat too as well but I sort of got tired of all the wooing and soul patrol shit. I do think Kat is a better singer and has more potential and I think she was slightly better the performance night and much better last night. Plus Kat looks like a star, Taylor looks like my uncle. I think she should have won, but Taylor is great too. So eh.

I'll be looking forward to Rockstar though.

[jwoods986]

I've been watching all season but didn't really watch the finale. I was watching Lost and would flip over on commercials. The first time I checked it, I saw Chicken Little and flipped back to commercials.

Anyway, I'm not crazy about Taylor winning but oh well. I never voted so I can't complain. Tim's assessment of the top5 is pretty much on. Katherine certainly has the look/image (and boobies) and a great voice - when she's on. But she was inconsistent and over-sang a lot of times.

As far as runner-ups, except for Clay the runner-up has been waaaay behind the winner. There was an article in yesterdays paper about it. Justin sold (these are all app.) 143,000, Diana Degarmo 160,000, and Bo 600,000 (vs. Carrie's 2.5 million). So, Katherine, head on over to the mansion and have Hef's guys take your picture

[hippietim]

I saw Carrie Underwood on this VH1 Heart concert last night. She sounded pretty good singing a Heart tune. That is, until she and Ann Wilson started singing side by side. Not even close. Ann Wilson is in a whole other league.

[jgcable]

Was I the only one that thought more than half of the finale show pretty much sucked?

The award thing was stupid, some of the medleys were really bad, I never need to hear Chicken Little or Ace sing again, the Wolfgang Puck thing was stupid, the Fuel thing was terrible, whoever that was that sang with Elliot was not even in the same town as the key to the song, etc. I'm very glad I have a fast-forward on my DVR.

Prince was cool though.

I thought Prince was cool too. The highlite of the show for me was the Burt Bacharach medley. Not.. the performances...but rather the songs themselves. I am a huge fan of his and I was cool hearing many of the great songs he wrote.
Oh yea... Catherine has great cans and Kelly must be a monster in the sack.

[MBreinin]

I saw Carrie Underwood on this VH1 Heart concert last night. She sounded pretty good singing a Heart tune. That is, until she and Ann Wilson started singing side by side. Not even close. Ann Wilson is in a whole other league.

Very true, Ann Wilson is an icon...she is untouchable in Rock Music.

However, she looks like a Volkswagen these days, and Carrie, well they really fixed that little broad up..she is SMOKING.

FWIW, I think Carrie did pretty well singing "Alone", she has talent.

Mike

[Soap]

Taylor?
Please...he has no vocal range and his body movements are extremely annoying. He will have a limited career that much is sure.
America when voting is confused, they vote for all the wrong reasons.
Its all about the singing, or should be anyways.
In all honesty imo, this year, there wasn't really many good singers in the bunch. Last seasons singers were much better than this years.

[St.James]

I believe American Idol is rigged. The 12 finalists are picked in the beginning stages of the competition. Very average singers are picked and then eliminated 1-by-1 to drag out the show. And if anyone believes the producers of that show will actually let voters pick who wins a million dollar recording contract they're out of their mind.

Interesting people are picked to keep viewers tuned in, but the winner is definitely predetermined and if you pay attention the judges will tell you, especially Simon.

I've pretty much quit watching the show. I don't pay any attention to the first few weeks at all. Not only is it boring and annoying, but it's a sham. The only thing that changes every season are the names and faces. They pick the same type of singers every time.

Country, R&B, Rock, and all of the "Divas" that every last fucking one of them sound exactly the same. It's all in there.

It's almost an insult to watch simply because it's become so easy to see who's going home when they FINALLY narrow it down the final 20. All you have to do is listen to the judges. They will praise someone for weeks then suddenly tell them they screwed it up, then are eliminated.

This season the favorite to win was Chris, but none of the judges ever showed real favoritism towards him. I never know what's going on with Randy. He seems to be tone deaf because he'll hoot and holler and "dawg" over the worst sounding shit. He put on hot pink spandex and filled in on bass for Journey 100 years ago so he's supposed to be Mr. Music now. Paula, as Simon puts it, is "like an annoying Chihuahua humping your leg" and really needs to just go away. Simon is the only one I can stand to listen to.

If you watch his facial expressions though you can tell he sometimes doesn't want to say some of the things he says to people he may actually like. That kind of tells me the producers are making the picks.

I can deal with the show in small doses, but the main thing that irks me about it... well 2 things. Paula Abdul and Ryan Seacrest. Especially Ryan Seacrest! That fucker irritates the hell out of me with his stupid statements and pissy little comments. I swear I'm waiting for someone to kick shit out of him right there on stage.

[MBreinin]

James, I think you are 100% percent correct. I think the show IS fixed...but everything in this world is fixed...right down to our Presidential elections. However, it is great entertainment.

However, and this is the only thing that throws a wrench in the fixed machine, why would a pudgy, grey haired guy with very little mass appeal for the pop market win over a statuesque, all american girl who looked like she was groomed to be the next pop sensation? The cash cow is Kat, not Taylor.

However, I have also found that basically everyone in the top 4-5 ends up with some kind of career as a result. Kat will go on to be big, Chris will end up fronting some band, etc.

FWIW, I really was shocked when Chris was voted off. I thought he owned this season..he was a lock. Finally a rocker they could market.

Mike

[Badseed]

Hippie!

That vibrato on CHris drove me nuts.Could you imagine a duet with Stevie Nicks? Southpark could make another episode out of that,lol.

I liked Kat, just because she was hot and had a nice rack.If I wanted to watch Jay Leno's kid sing, id do it.

I liked how that gay kid was geeked when Clay Aiken came up from "behind him".He tried to sing along until he was told to sit down on stage.......too funny.

[Soap]

I believe American Idol is rigged. The 12 finalists are picked in the beginning stages of the competition. Very average singers are picked and then eliminated 1-by-1 to drag out the show. And if anyone believes the producers of that show will actually let voters pick who wins a million dollar recording contract they're out of their mind.

Interesting people are picked to keep viewers tuned in, but the winner is definitely predetermined and if you pay attention the judges will tell you, especially Simon.

I've pretty much quit watching the show. I don't pay any attention to the first few weeks at all. Not only is it boring and annoying, but it's a sham. The only thing that changes every season are the names and faces. They pick the same type of singers every time.

Country, R&B, Rock, and all of the "Divas" that every last fucking one of them sound exactly the same. It's all in there.

It's almost an insult to watch simply because it's become so easy to see who's going home when they FINALLY narrow it down the final 20. All you have to do is listen to the judges. They will praise someone for weeks then suddenly tell them they screwed it up, then are eliminated.

This season the favorite to win was Chris, but none of the judges ever showed real favoritism towards him. I never know what's going on with Randy. He seems to be tone deaf because he'll hoot and holler and "dawg" over the worst sounding shit. He put on hot pink spandex and filled in on bass for Journey 100 years ago so he's supposed to be Mr. Music now. Paula, as Simon puts it, is "like an annoying Chihuahua humping your leg" and really needs to just go away. Simon is the only one I can stand to listen to.

If you watch his facial expressions though you can tell he sometimes doesn't want to say some of the things he says to people he may actually like. That kind of tells me the producers are making the picks.

I can deal with the show in small doses, but the main thing that irks me about it... well 2 things. Paula Abdul and Ryan Seacrest. Especially Ryan Seacrest! That fucker irritates the hell out of me with his stupid statements and pissy little comments. I swear I'm waiting for someone to kick shit out of him right there on stage.

I'll agree with that.
Me and the wife have always had the thought that it could be fixed to a degree because some that aren't deserving of advancing or winning it (Taylor...cough, cough) is just to obvious.

I'd love to see them, contestants (idol singers) every week write a song of his or her own. Make it a part of the musical process, you have to be able to write some tunes, AND perform them. This would seperate the wanna be's to the truly talented and more deserving candidates. Most can sing decent, not all, but most. Can you write the stuff is the question? No, i'm not talking about strumming a few chords and singing incoherently. Write some stuff you'd be willing to perform in front of a super large television audience. The only one I recall that had the writting ability was last seasons runner up, travis tritt look alike guy. I don't remember his name. He had long hair and had a special on one of the music channels awhile back about him? Anyways, he could write it. He wasn't a boy band voice either.

[St.James]

James, I think you are 100% percent correct. I think the show IS fixed...but everything in this world is fixed...right down to our Presidential elections. However, it is great entertainment.

However, and this is the only thing that throws a wrench in the fixed machine, why would a pudgy, grey haired guy with very little mass appeal for the pop market win over a statuesque, all american girl who looked like she was groomed to be the next pop sensation? The cash cow is Kat, not Taylor.

However, I have also found that basically everyone in the top 4-5 ends up with some kind of career as a result. Kat will go on to be big, Chris will end up fronting some band, etc.

FWIW, I really was shocked when Chris was voted off. I thought he owned this season..he was a lock. Finally a rocker they could market.

Mike

I think I have an answer for why Taylor was picked over Kat.

These TV people are ruthless fuckers. They have made the show into a monster. It's about sales now. Selling the ad spots is where they are making the most money. So, they want a wider audience and they're not going to get it with all of the Whitney Houston wannabes and bald headed rockers.

I believe they are trying to appeal to the older demographic, instead of the 12 year old little girls who call in voting for the guy they have the biggest crush on.

Picking Taylor lets the older crowd know they have something for them too. That way AI gains more adult viewers which appeals to a wider variety of companies wanting to buy ad space on the show.

I was reading about the commercials on AI a few weeks ago and how companies are paying millions for ad slots.

It's a money machine and thinking about it it's kind of an insult to the winner to get such a very small fraction of cash that show made.

[hippietim]

So let me get this straight. You guys are saying that the reason that they have the show American Idol is for a bunch of big corporations to make a lot of money. That's messed up. And here I was thinking that they were doing it for the betterment of mankind.