Heh, rarely do we have to look beyond today's headlines to see Islam establishing yet another beachhead from which it will gradually chip away at the foundations of western civilization. The money quote, "Dr Syed Aziz Pasha, secretary general of the Union of Muslim Organisations of the UK and Ireland, said he had asked for ... Islamic laws to cover family affairs which would apply only to Muslims." Just a little sharia ... at least for now.
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Last edited by YetAnotherOne; 08-16-2006, 02:41 PM.Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam!
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Originally posted by dd3keegsI heard a statement today that really hit the nail on the head. Not all Muslims are Extremist Islamic Terrorists. There are peace loving Muslims out there. However, the Peace Loving ones are not in Leadership positions. (The Majority of Muslim Leader's hold to these-or support- Conseravite Extremist Beliefs.) The Peace Loving Muslims don't call the Shots. They don't have the Money or the Power. The Hate Mongering is being preached to a largely young, poor, highly impressionable Muslim Population ( 40% of Iranians live below poverty level, and the median age is 25 years old). There was a certain Party with a certain Leader that promised to and brought Germany out of it's economic ruin and poverty. Hitler and the Nazi party looked like the good guy saviours to the German people in the beginning.
This seems wrong. The US is allied with the Muslim leaders of Morocco, Jordan, Tunisia, Libya, Egypt, Turkey, Azerbaijan, Kazakstan, Lebanon, Saudis, Kuwait, Indonesia, Qatar, UAE, Oman, Pakistan, Indonesia, etc.
The only Muslim leaders we have a problem with are in Syria and Iran (well, I guess Iraq and Afganistan used to be on that list, but not anymore).
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Originally posted by danastasThis seems wrong. The US is allied with the Muslim leaders of Morocco, Jordan, Tunisia, Libya, Egypt, Turkey, Azerbaijan, Kazakstan, Lebanon, Saudis, Kuwait, Indonesia, Qatar, UAE, Oman, Pakistan, Indonesia, etc.
The only Muslim leaders we have a problem with are in Syria and Iran (well, I guess Iraq and Afganistan used to be on that list, but not anymore).
These "muslim" nations will eventually be run by the extremists. Its just a matter of time. The Saudis secretly funnel money to the terrorists and the US turns a blind eye because of oil. Most of the Jordanians support the terrorists. Its a matter of time before the govt does too.When the 911 happened the jordanians were dancing in the street. Egypt is where Osama is from and they never arrested him when they could have. Pakistan govt supports the Khan network. This network researched and created plans for nuclear weapons helped by the russians. There govt still wont arrest this Khan guy.They sold nuclear info to the Iranians. The only reason Kuwait hasnt started supporting terrorists is because we saved them from Saddam.
The former soviet republics cant fight us they are still trying to be totally free from Russia.There focus is against Russia. You cant defend Islam dude no matter how hard you try. It only a matter of time in the US when the muslims here will start acting out. You'll see. The clerics who teach in the mosques are becoming more and more militant so are the younger muslims. Anti Semitism is spreading like the plague all over the world. People are being told that all the problems are because of jews in Isreal and elsewhere.
As far as hitler goes he was rejectd by his jewish father and his application to a prestigious art school was rejected by a jew also. He hated jews because of this not because his religion taught him to. Islam teaches that jews are decendants of pigs and apes. They teach Allah cursed them. Its easy to kill a person when you see him/her as an animal.
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Boy, did this thread get off track.:ROTF: I was just commenting on the choice of words the Administration is using. I just thought is was kinda like calling your mama a whore. It doesn't matter whether she is or not. "Them's just fightin' words".I am a true ass set to this board.
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Sorry fett. Let's get the thread back on track: Fascism is indeed the correct term.Last edited by YetAnotherOne; 08-16-2006, 04:00 PM.Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam!
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Originally posted by yard dawgIsreal was a nation wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy before Islam was even started my mahammed(sp) We can argue the biblical right of Isreal to exist and own that land but I wont. That wouldnt get us anywhere but in a huge arguement.
Islams goal is to spread islam everywhere with or without the use of violence. Check the former soviet republics out. They are islamic and very violent. The nation of Sudan is slaughtering christians and enslaving them in the name of islam Its not a peaceful religion. Its a cult thats into total world domination in the name of ALLAH by any means necessary. Isreal should totally annilate anyone claiming there destruction. Any nation that claims death to Isreal should be annialated. Isreal doesnt start the violence they defend there right exist. Hezbollah kidnapped there soldiers unprovoked. Iran supports the terrorist organizations. Islam promotes suicide bombing,calls jews decendants of apes and pigs,attacked the USA with planes. Its not the USA or Isreal that starts this crap. Isreal should nuke Tehran as a demonstration of what will happen if the islamic murderers dont cease with there agenda of pushing every jew into the mediterranian sea.
So the red indians were in America wayyyyyyyyyy before you were.So this means you will leave USA?I don't think so.
btw,EVERY religion has the purpose of spreading by using violence or not.It just depends on time and environment.
And bout your little demonstration thing,what about the innocent people?This is war.Not a barfight.Last edited by Norton; 08-16-2006, 04:22 PM.I wish my hair-color was EDS :/
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Originally posted by Shawn LutzMy hat goes off to everyone who have posted in this thread for keeping their cool and being respectful to others in this discussion (w/ the exception of Bill :ROTF: )
A lot of good points in this thread and I wish I had the time and energy to read em all and respond...I am a true ass set to this board.
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Originally posted by NortonSo the red indians were in America wayyyyyyyyyy before you were.So this means you will leave USA?I don't think so.
btw,EVERY religion has the purpose of spreading by using violence or not.It just depends on time and environment.
And bout your little demonstration thing,what about the innocent people?This is war.Not a barfight.
This is war and in war people die. I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT its was Islamic people that killed 3000 innocent people in the WTC bombings on 911. Its islamic people that kill innocent people everyday with suicide boms just because they arent muslims. Its islamic people that blow innocent people up in airplanes. If the Islamic leaders are so brave why dont we see them blowing themselves up??? WHy do they run to a mosque when USA retaliates for a terrorist attack? WHy is Osama hiding? Why did Saddam run and hide? Why isnt Irans leader martyring himself if its such a high honor? Islam kills more innocent people everyday but the jews or americans. Total annialation is what the USA and Isreal should to do anyone who claims that the great satan must die and isreal should be wiped off the map. If innocent muslims die so be it. They can tell there leaders to stop cant they?
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They do these things because their leaders tell them.They're simple tools.Their leaders of course won't reveal themselves.Would you?
I'm not defending them I hate them,but their behaviours aren't caused by their religion.Islam is not that.They're doing it in a cult form.Normal muslims are not like them and they're a minority.And just because of those motherfuckers,you can not blame billions of people.They are terrorists,right.But Islam's just a normal religion just like Christianity.They misunderstand the rules of Islam.
So what I mean is,Islam doesn't kill people.Those terrorists groups kill people.They would do it if the situation with their land was the same and they believed in another religion.It's about time and politics.
BTW,they did not invade the lands,the generations before them invaded them.And the greedy Europeans are the generations before you,am I wrong?So it's he same thing and both are not guilty.War happens and there are some consequences.
In the end,I AM AGAINST terrorism of course.It's a crime against humanity.But I think you'll get my point.I wish my hair-color was EDS :/
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I think that you shouldnt really treat all muslims as terrorists however if the muslim communities perhaps were more willing to help the authorities and try and stop the extremists it would lower the number, however the extremists may threaten violence and jihads or whatever if people interfeere...
I thought it was bloody ridiculous they had hisbollah and other islamic extremist factions having recruitment videos on youtube, i'm pretty sure these were real and not jokes as I doubt many comedians can speak arabic...
Notice how the chiefs never do the dirty work only the mind controlled younger guys who are manipulated into hating and dextroying stuff...
I've heard that the extremists plan to take over England, I don't think the scots welsh and Irish will allow that to happen to us...
Ozz
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All the history stuff offers a great prospective. Here's the big dif. History, as we see the middle-east, is either 87 or 58 years old. Well, the riffs that have been going on there have been going on for couple of thousand years. How can we in our Western World, aka America age 250 steeped in Euorpean tradition, even have a clue as to how those people think? We have lived in a dreamworld fighting the ones we knew. We knew the guys in WWI and WWII. Japan and Germany and Italy were almost like us. They were just land hungry countries. We knew the Russkies. We knew China, for a while. We didn't know the Koreans and we lost. We didn't know Vietnamese and we lost. Those guys had a bigger cause. Throw out western influence and let the local despots control the people. The scary part about all this is, it's not about territory, per se. It about establishing a belief system that has been based on 2000 years of tradition. And it ain't ours.I am a true ass set to this board.
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Originally posted by ozzuk1I think that you shouldnt really treat all muslims as terrorists however if the muslim communities perhaps were more willing to help the authorities and try and stop the extremists it would lower the number, however the extremists may threaten violence and jihads or whatever if people interfeere...
I thought it was bloody ridiculous they had hisbollah and other islamic extremist factions having recruitment videos on youtube, i'm pretty sure these were real and not jokes as I doubt many comedians can speak arabic...
Notice how the chiefs never do the dirty work only the mind controlled younger guys who are manipulated into hating and dextroying stuff...
I've heard that the extremists plan to take over England, I don't think the scots welsh and Irish will allow that to happen to us...
Ozz
Yes!Thanks for understanding me.I wish my hair-color was EDS :/
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