How times have changed

[xenophobe]

The ACLU will support your right to free speech and for and for men to molest little boys, but they won't support your RKBA.

[hippietim]

The ACLU will support your right to free speech and for and for men to molest little boys, but they won't support your RKBA.

And the Catholics protect and cover for their men that molest little boys.

What's RKBA?

[atomic charvel guy]

I'm a roman Catholic, the only thing I'd cover on a child molester is his mouth and nose so he would die a.s.a.p.

[St.James]

And the Catholics protect and cover for their men that molest little boys.

What's RKBA?

RBKA is Right To Keep And Bear Arms... (I believe)

[VulfgangPfuck]

um...guys...not piss on your parade or your thread, but this one may be doomed to be deleted. Political argument threads (should this turn into one) are frowned upon around here.
Watch your tempers!

[Ralph E.]

[Nazgul]

Have to make a change.

Scenario: Jack pulls into school parking lot with rifle in gun rack.
1973.....Vice Principal comes over, takes a look at Jack's rifle, goes to his car and gets his to show Jack.
2006 ......Jack pulls rifle out and kills 15 students & faculty. Everyone blames the music he listens to.

A metal music that is .

[charvelguy]

I'm a roman Catholic, the only thing I'd cover on a child molester is his mouth and nose so he would die a.s.a.p.

oh, that was a good laugh. poetic irony or ironic poetry is your calling Tommy.

[danastas]

And this thread is an excellent reason why they should be banned.

[STLKINGV]

when I grew up, we didn't have any of this "time out" crap, it was more like lights out, kabamm!!!-lol

No shit Tommy!!!! If I got swats at school, I always got it worse when I got home.... Dad usually nailed me with the belt....... One thing about corporal punishment, it does teach you to think before you act...

I look back now and realize that the beatings that I received as a kid, were for my own good... I've never spent the night in jail.....

My $.02

A~

[Misanthrope189]

Hell yeah. I grew up in Catholic school, and somehow they found out my Dad would punish us with a belt. They brought him into the office and the principal told him she didn't think it was an appropriate way to discipline his children, and he said "What? You used to whack me on the side of the head with a ruler, don't tell me how to raise my kids!"

[VulfgangPfuck]

What kills me is this one:

Scenario: Billy breaks a window in his father's car and his Dad gives him a whipping.
1973 ........Billy is more careful next time, grows up normal, goes to college, and becomes a successful businessman.
2006…….Billy's Dad is arrested for child abuse. Billy removed to foster care and joins a gang. Billy's sister is told by state psychologist that she remembers being abused herself and their Dad goes to prison. Billy's mom has affair with psychologist.

I got my ass whipped when I did something wrong. Now if your kid shows up at school with so much as a scratch or a bruise that was inflicted by him/her self ...you get threatened with DYFS (or CPS 'Child Protective Services as known in some states)
Upon further investigation, the parent(s) get arrested, ALL children are taken out of the home and placed.

It's total bullshit!!

[hippietim]

Scenario: Billy breaks a window in his father's car and his Dad gives him a whipping.
1973 ........Billy is more careful next time, grows up normal, goes to college, and becomes a successful businessman.
2006…….Billy's Dad is arrested for child abuse. Billy removed to foster care and joins a gang. Billy's sister is told by state psychologist that she remembers being abused herself and their Dad goes to prison. Billy's mom has affair with psychologist

While this is all amusing it is complete and utter bullshit. Ask my father. He grew up in a nice Catholic family of 14 kids. He got his ass beat. Trust me, this was not the way - it left deep emotional issues with him. I know of lots of folks that grew up getting their ass beat. They did not go off and grow up normal. They had a fuck load of issues. A lot of them are the parents of your current crack addicts.

I got whacked from time to time as a kid - nothing major. It didn't teach me anything other than what my threshold for pain was and to be more careful to not get caught next time.

My kids have gotten their fair share of corporal punishment. I've never been arrested. Why? Well because I didn't beat the living fuck out of them.

Plenty of kids ARE way better off in foster care. Sure, you can point to a 60 minutes expose or some other thing about how fucked up it all is but leaving kids in abusive situations is totally fucked.

Nothing good comes of a parent beating the shit out of a kid. You can look back fondly all you want to 1973 but you are kidding yourself if you think things turned out so great for those kids. Either way it sucks for the for the kid to get beat.

[hippietim]

FWIW, I was in high school in 1979 and grew up in VA. If you pulled up to the school with a rifle in a gun rack, the police would have been at the school instantly. Maybe in some rural or small town that was acceptable but not a fucking chance where I grew up. BTW, it was a couple miles from the NRA headquarters so don't think there weren't guns around.

[Misanthrope189]

I think there's a difference between disciplining a child within reason and beating the fuck out of them. Kids are allowed to sue parents for that kind of thing, and can win. Just like fistfights at school, I think the way fistfights used to be taught people a lot. Nowadays you get knives and guns pulled on you.

Cheers,
Nick