5 year old killed by pit bull

[Emthrax]

I tried to adopt a English Bulldog from my sister, since she was always at work her dickwead husband would just throw the dog outside so he wouldn't have to deal with him. Because of this abuse/neglect Harley was pout under three times..once for eating a shoe, once for eating a garden hose and hotwheel and once for something else..it was just a waste of a beautiful animal..

Bro... I remember when y'all were going through this with Harley. Just makes me sick that he was treated so horribly as a puppy and ended up like this. I know you tried, you were awesome.
The same thing happens to humans... neglect a kid and beat him and he turns into scum, then he'll grow up and get himself a big dog and ruin that poor animal.
Those responsible for turning out an animal like that should have to pay, and should have to pay big time.

By the way, my darling silly cat is sitting right here in my lap watching me type this. She loves these guys right here:

[Emthrax]

Em, I bet their adrenal glands are overdeveloped and cause the speed trip.

That and their anal glands. :ROTF:
Okay, I admit, I have met ONE nice chihuahua. It liked me actually (which was amazing). It was still a little hyper piece of shit, but it was nice.
There, I said it.

[horns666]

Hey Guys..John, Emmy, Rich, Jimmy..all you sumbitches..

I love you guys!!

Yeah, poor Harley, the damage was done..going under the knife several times and spent too many brain cells..he prolly didn't have that many to start with..he was a AKC Bulldog..Bulldogs are very bright to begin with..we owned prolly 10 in my family over the years..they are "special"..

Pico, ..he's awesome..he pissed on my bald head ya know..ya gotta love that!!

I thought he wanted to cuddle, until I felt the warm cascade of flowing pee..:ROTF:

The bastid!

[ABSOLUT CHARVEL]

Bill, it sounds like territorial pissing to me. I do the same thing to the wife when were in the shower.

[horns666]

Bill, it sounds like territorial pissing to me. I do the same thing to the wife when were in the shower.

...dude, don't get me started..right when that happened..I posted the "Peeco" thread..and it was pulled faster than you could say ..whaddafuck!

seriously..I must have pissed off some animal rights people or something...pun intened!!

[RacerX]

I've had to shoot down some out-of-control dogs. 2 of em were roaming my old neighborhood in Lakewood. In broad daylight they attacked a guy walking with his 6 year old son. Luckily they didn't get to the kid, before the dad picked him up in his arms quickly. I immediately grabbed my .22 LR M-16 copy and ran out to help; as soon as they saw me the dogs scrambled under a truck. I didn't want to hit some dude's gas tank, so I waited until midnight to do my mission. They were walking around the street like they owned the place. I dropped the big one, and the smaller one wised up and ran like hell with some hot lead following. I didn't hit him but never saw him again. I collected my brass and went to bed. Next morning I called the pound to come pick up the dead body. That was an interesting conversation.

[Rsmacker]

There are 1000 registered pits in the U.K.

I stand corrected, I was under the impression they had all been taken away and destroyed. Evidently, so long as they are registered and muzzled, they are tolerated, with the aim of being eradicated within a few years thanks to the ban on breeding/importing them. As the man says, there should only be about 1000 PBTs in the UK.

The interesting thing is that now they have carried out an autopsy, the police have said it was "a pit-bull terrier TYPE" dog that was the killer, not necessarily a full-on PBT. In actual fact, the law allows for any dog "thought to be a Pit Bull Terrier type" to fall foul of the Dangerous Dogs Act 1991 (Amd. 1997), so if a policeman or "expert" decides the dog has the characteristics of PBT, then that's an offence! The dog doesn't actually have to have ANY blood-line relating it to a PBT to be called one!!!! Great if you have a large Staffordshire Bull Terrier then, because many many people think the two breeds are one and the same.

[Cleveland Metal]

Yep, the laws pertaining to APBT identification are pretty much comedy. Relying upon laymen to ID the breed characteristics that are hard to discern even by a actual pro. And that doesn't include the average animal control officer or policeman.

The Pitbull breed is very hard to assuredly ID. It's usually someone sayng what people want to hear really.

Tho it may offend some dedicated followers, Staffordshire terriers and American Pitbull terriers are so similar it's almost being lost at this point. Mentally, they are the same. Some slight physical diffs, but miniscule in the scope of things really.

People will pretty much confuse a Presa Canario with being a large Pitbull on a quick visual. Totally different animals tho, particularly mentally.

In case you're wondering, I run a pretty big Pitbull Message board that advocates responsible ownership and developing proper legislation that helps the breed and good owners, as well as promoting safety for the public. I'm pretty involved in the breed.

[horns666]

Yep, the laws pertaining to APBT identification are pretty much comedy. Relying upon laymen to ID the breed characteristics that are hard to discern even by a actual pro. And that doesn't include the average animal control officer or policeman.

The Pitbull breed is very hard to assuredly ID. It's usually someone sayng what people want to hear really.

Tho it may offend some dedicated followers, Staffordshire terriers and American Pitbull terriers are so similar it's almost being lost at this point. Mentally, they are the same. Some slight physical diffs, but miniscule in the scope of things really.

People will pretty much confuse a Presa Canario with being a large Pitbull on a quick visual. Totally different animals tho, particularly mentally.

In case you're wondering, I run a pretty big Pitbull Message board that advocates responsible ownership and developing proper legislation that helps the breed and good owners, as well as promoting safety for the public. I'm pretty involved in the breed.

John has raised and trained Pitts for a VERY long time. He's more knowledgable of this breed than anyone could possibly imagine..he has dedicated much passion and love for the breed.

He invested most of his life to this , as well as music..there is NOTHING you could possibly "debate" on the issue of pittbulls with John..

Ron shootin' up the place ..killin' killer pooches..NICE..

I came close several times..but whenever a dog charged me..they always ceased their advance when I raised my weapon..it's like they knew..they'd still bark and display aggression, but I never had to shoot one..luckily. It was close a few times...one was a beautiful white German Sheppard..luckily the owner was able to command the dog to retreat...I was holding a large box of donuts with one hand and my service weapon in the other..whew..I nearly dropped the donuts..

John certainly had this experience too..but I'll let him elaborate if he wishes!!

[RacerX]

"LOOK OUT, DOGGIES!"

"I'm-a gunnin' fer yew!"

[Bandersnatch]

THAT, is a kick ass mullet, Ron!!

[horns666]

"LOOK OUT, DOGGIES!"

"I'm-a gunnin' fer yew!"

That's nice Ron, ..love that pic man..

Ya fuggin' cowboy!!!

[xenophobe]

Don't blame the gun, blame the asshole..

A gun is an inanimate object, no feelings, no sudden urges, no mind of it's own.

A gun left alone will do nothing but sit there. An animal left unattended... well everyone who has owned a dog has come home to unexpected situations... torn up couches or pillows, crap or piss somewhere, dogs are domesticated, but not civilized.

I know that there are some pits that regardless of how they're treated/raised will never attack anyone. I also know that there are pits that will/do attack people for no apparent reason regardless of how "sweet and cuddly" they are. You cant train instinct out of an animal, period.

Absolutely the truth.

Just as some dogs are grumpy, some dogs are shy, some dogs are very temperamental, some are docile, and some just have that wild streak that you cannot remove no matter how well you treat it or how well domesticated it may act. Animals can just 'snap' like any human, and you cannot tell if and when it will ever happen. I've even seen it happen with my own eyes. Dogs are individuals in the sense that no two dogs, even from the same litter, twins even, are alike. And you cannot control what you cannot effectively teach or communicate with. A good upbringing and proper training cannot effectively rule out the potential for trouble, however it may severely limit it.

[Daywalker]

For whatever reason, any dog, whatever breed is capable of killing or injuring a kid at any time, so the worrying thing i guess is the delusion shared by some dog owners that they have any control over their animals off the leash because they just don't.

Dogs and every other animal in the animal kingdom are animate objects which nobody can predict the actions of however well trained or loved. Animals have no sense of right or wrong so cannot be held accountable when they attack. Attacking is as natural as breathing to them and not necessarily distinguished between either, at their level of lower brain functions.

Humans on the other hand do have a sense of right or wrong (it's what sets us apart from any other member of the animal kingdom) - so by becoming a dog owner you must adopt the responsibility for that dog's actions if it comes into contact with someone, and if it is allowed to come into contact with someone and it kills or injures them, then the owner should be 100% held accountable for the death or injuries - as it is the dog owner who has failed to contain a quite obvious and dangerous potential threat, a threat that they introduced to begin with by becoming a dog owner.

Interestingly enough it is not the same with cats as pets in the UK. Cats are considered wild and vermin/pests, yet property of someone else. Hence the situation if a cat is systematically wrecking the paint on a car bonnet at night, there is no course of action because as vermin/pests they technically could be destroyed/removed etc but not without being acountable to the owner to which when the issue is brought before the owner, they state also the law, that the owner cannot be held responsible for the cats actions as its wild and considered vermin/ a pest. Ridiculous.

I love dogs and have been around them since i was little and have never been attacked by one - but I will never get one if i have a family because i have to assume that one day for whatever reason it could injure or kill a member of my family no matter how well i could train it or look after it and that is a risk im not ever willing to take.

[fett]

Wow!!!! Ron sure lost a lot of weight real fast.