Thats it ... We're moving

[UFORocks]

If there are rules against such conduct in the HOA, they will be involved... voluntarily or not.
You could sue them for failure to enforce the HOA rules for which I know you PAY for.
Failure to enforce one rule technically nulls the whole document.
They cannot be selective about it unless the rules are written in such a manner that allows committee review and agreement on each infraction.

Yeah, we're gonna call the property manager again tonight and talk to her. Now that three neighbors are complaining instead of just us maybe she'll get off her ass and do something.

[KingV1]

This story reminds me of when my wife and I got married and moved into our first apartment. It was a small apartment probably about a 600 square feet one bedroom. The front door was probably 15 steps away from our bed. We had this woman and her two daughters (fourteen and sixteen) move in next door. There front door was about 2 feet away from our front door. We were on the first floor and our doors were under a stairwell so it made a little porch like area. Well the mother was never at home. She worked during the day and then would go out almost everynight and sometimes we wouldn't see her for a couple of days. Basically the two girls had the apartment to themselves and they had people over all the time and they would hang out all night long in the porch area. Now this area was very small and I would come home from a long day at work and I would literally have to step over people to get into my front door. Heck sometimes there would be someone sitting in a chair leaning up against my door and they would act all pissed off because they had to get up so I could get in. Also, they would always have their stereo blaring with their front door open. It was miserable because our apartment was so small that I could hear every word they were saying when I was in bed and my wife and I could never enjoy watching a movie because they would be making so much noise. I tried speaking with their mother, but that just pissed the two girls off because they would get in trouble. I called security and they would show up anywhere from an hour to two hours later and it would almost always be after the party was over. So I started calling the police. They didn't show up any faster and after about 3 calls they spoke with the manager at the apartment complex and the manager called me and stated that I need to call the security number. I told him that I was going to keep calling the police because calling security apparently doesn't work. Well the final straw came one day when my wife called me at work and she was at the apartment very sick. I came home to find the oldest daughter and her boyfriend hanging out in the porch area in front of the doors. While I was taking care of my wife a couple of other kids showed up and they began having yet another party during the day. I opened my front door and the girl's boyfriend was leaning in a chair against my door and he fell inside my apartment. It didn't bother me and I helped him up and asked if they could move the party into their apartment or at least keep it down. I shut the door and went back to taking care of my wife. All of a sudden something banged against my door. I walked over and looked out the peep hole and the girl's boyfriend was kicking my door. Two other guys were laughing and trying to help the girl hold him back so he couldn't kick my door anymore. She was telling him to stop before "he calls the police" and he said "... he better not call the police or I will get my gun and shoot him and his bitch wife". Well I did call the police and the apartment manager and meet them outside. By then they had all left, but I filed a formal complaint with the apartment complex and the police. I also told the apartment manager that I would be sending a letter to their corporate office with a copy of the police report indicating that if anything happens to me or my wife that I or someone in my family will be suing them for not taking any action. Well about two weeks from that incident they were kicked out of the apartment complex. The day before they left the mother confronted me and began yelling that I was an asshole neighbor and that this could have been resolved if I just spoke to her. I said well I would have spoken to her if she was ever at home and that if she would be some type of mother to this two girls then this wouldn't have happened in the first place so don't blame me for your own mistake. The next day they were gone, but they had covered my front door with ketchup, mustard and other items from their fridge.
It's so very frustrating when people don't have any respect for others.

[Cleveland Metal]

I have new neighbors not as bad as yours but they have a bad habit of letting their car idle for minutes. It's gassing me out. After numerous complaints they seem to have stopped. But if they really haven't, I was thinking about offering them a $100 bill to knock it off. Make it worth their while to be considerate. It beats gettng beaten.

I can not believe I heard someone say that... Please tell me you're not really contemplating doing something like that...

1st off, it won't work. All that works with those types is to earn respect. Paying them to leave you alone will be a huge mistake. Like dealing with the bully on the playground taking your lunch money, ya gotta throw down and earn his respect and it will stop.

2nd, you'll look like that biggest wussy in the land if you do that...

3rd, you WILL be the biggest wussy in the land if you do that...

I dont mean to be harsh there Fett, but that is some messed up thinkin that will begat trouble man... Take it from someone who deals with scum in the ghetto on a daily basis. Stand strong, command respect and don't wuss out, and earn respect it if needed. Sucks, but that is how it goes.

[nateb]

No it is very frustrating when you are forced to live near low class fuckheads.

UFO, if you are paying HOA fee's and they are not taking care of their end of the bargan, they are in breech of contract. You can sue their asses for that shit if they have been formally notified of issues, which you have payed to have taken care of. Document absolutely EVERYTHING.

-Nate

[fett]

Gee. I'm sorry. Cleve. :ROTF: :ROTF: For my partiular situation it seemed like a good idea. I'm a lover. Not a fighter. I guess that makes me a Viking god-like wussy.

[Endrik]

I agree with celve-John,.....fett seriously.... are you a fucking pussy????? have some dignity and pride for crying out loud...

[fett]

That's it. I'm moving. I guess my 56 year old balls have shriveled a little. You guys duke it out with your neighbors. I'm too old for that shit.

[Endrik]

fett, it's not about beating the living shit out of those little dipshits, bribing them is the worst thing you can do. Doing nothing is even 100 times better than this, giving human dirt a bribe makes this world a shittier place.

If you are giving them what they want, they gain even more of that BS attitude. They think that others are weak and and they can do whatever they want. Hell, they think that they can make a living out of this bullshit. Why make them feel better?????? Do you want to be their bitch????? It makes everything even worse man. Helping "criminals" is a crime.

[fett]

Maybe, I should have said incentive. I already ranted and raved at them and they ranted and raved right back at me. I think my rants got them to think and they seem to be more considerate. I can look pretty damn mean when I want to. I just might have scared them. I am not a pussy wussy or whatever. But being a big MF does have its advantages.:ROTF: :ROTF: :ROTF:

[ABSOLUT CHARVEL]

No it is very frustrating when you are forced to live near low class fuckheads.

UFO, if you are paying HOA fee's and they are not taking care of their end of the bargan, they are in breech of contract. You can sue their asses for that shit if they have been formally notified of issues, which you have payed to have taken care of. Document absolutely EVERYTHING.

-Nate

that is it in a nut shell. there is a reason for having a HOA and when you move in Condo Hell, you sign a contract that requires you to not have excisive volumes that disturbs neibours. if the HOA does not react, a lawsuit at this point may be required.

[lerxstcat]

You need to stay, NOT stiff your parents, and handle this legally. Don't ask the property manager what the HOA rules and bylaws are; get a copy and read them yourself. Then prepare a letter to the HOA demanding that it enforce the bylaws or be sued for failure.

These bylaws can be a PITA sometimes for condo owners, but they can also be to your benefit insituations like this. Also, like the other guy with the nightmare neighbors, state in your letter that if the HOA fails to act and you or your wife are harmed, that your families will sue the hell out of the HOA. As soon as they contemplate spending money on attorneys they will do something about it. An eviction is cheaper than defending a wrongful death lawsuit.

Also, asshole neighbors can be anywhere. What if you move and the next place is worse? Just keep moving? No, you can't do that. Also consider your wife's thoughts about you wanting to run from the problem. She may not say so, but I'm sure she wants to feel that her husband will stand up to protect her. Sometimes you have to do so, you can't always run away.

Get rid of the sonic bullies, or force them to control themselves. I would definitely call the police and state that after they were there for the noise call that you heard them threatening you. They can respond to things like that more so than noise calls which are a nuisance. That's called verbal assault.

[JACKSONFREAK]

Do you have a HOA?
I know most Condo communities have HOA's and there are certain clauses in some in which they can force an owner out for failure to comply with the rules.
If you have one. read through it and see if you can find any rules regarding their behavior that could get them booted.

Second, get a video camera and record ALL the incidents.
The noise, the vibrating door... all of it.
The key is to get them making threats on tape. If you can hear the comments without the aid of special equipment, it's considered an open threat against you. Which means they meant for you to hear it.
Or were too drunk to realize it. Regardless, get it all on tape and play it for the cops the next time they show up.

I agree with Rick. get all the documentation you can to back you up agianst the noisey neighbors and/or the HOA incase of a lawsuit. You pay association fees just for this very reason.
Fett if you pay your neighbors off. whats to prevent them from raising the bribe next time? Youcould go broke quickly. Then what wil you buy all those guitars with?
Gil

[fett]

My neighbors aren't that bad. They are just new to the park and the country, I think.:ROTF: :ROTF: :ROTF: :ROTF:

[69buickman]

This story reminds me of when my wife and I got married and moved into our first apartment. It was a small apartment probably about a 600 square feet one bedroom. The front door was probably 15 steps away from our bed. We had this woman and her two daughters (fourteen and sixteen) move in next door. There front door was about 2 feet away from our front door. We were on the first floor and our doors were under a stairwell so it made a little porch like area. Well the mother was never at home. She worked during the day and then would go out almost everynight and sometimes we wouldn't see her for a couple of days. Basically the two girls had the apartment to themselves and they had people over all the time and they would hang out all night long in the porch area. Now this area was very small and I would come home from a long day at work and I would literally have to step over people to get into my front door. Heck sometimes there would be someone sitting in a chair leaning up against my door and they would act all pissed off because they had to get up so I could get in. Also, they would always have their stereo blaring with their front door open. It was miserable because our apartment was so small that I could hear every word they were saying when I was in bed and my wife and I could never enjoy watching a movie because they would be making so much noise. I tried speaking with their mother, but that just pissed the two girls off because they would get in trouble. I called security and they would show up anywhere from an hour to two hours later and it would almost always be after the party was over. So I started calling the police. They didn't show up any faster and after about 3 calls they spoke with the manager at the apartment complex and the manager called me and stated that I need to call the security number. I told him that I was going to keep calling the police because calling security apparently doesn't work. Well the final straw came one day when my wife called me at work and she was at the apartment very sick. I came home to find the oldest daughter and her boyfriend hanging out in the porch area in front of the doors. While I was taking care of my wife a couple of other kids showed up and they began having yet another party during the day. I opened my front door and the girl's boyfriend was leaning in a chair against my door and he fell inside my apartment. It didn't bother me and I helped him up and asked if they could move the party into their apartment or at least keep it down. I shut the door and went back to taking care of my wife. All of a sudden something banged against my door. I walked over and looked out the peep hole and the girl's boyfriend was kicking my door. Two other guys were laughing and trying to help the girl hold him back so he couldn't kick my door anymore. She was telling him to stop before "he calls the police" and he said "... he better not call the police or I will get my gun and shoot him and his bitch wife". Well I did call the police and the apartment manager and meet them outside. By then they had all left, but I filed a formal complaint with the apartment complex and the police. I also told the apartment manager that I would be sending a letter to their corporate office with a copy of the police report indicating that if anything happens to me or my wife that I or someone in my family will be suing them for not taking any action. Well about two weeks from that incident they were kicked out of the apartment complex. The day before they left the mother confronted me and began yelling that I was an asshole neighbor and that this could have been resolved if I just spoke to her. I said well I would have spoken to her if she was ever at home and that if she would be some type of mother to this two girls then this wouldn't have happened in the first place so don't blame me for your own mistake. The next day they were gone, but they had covered my front door with ketchup, mustard and other items from their fridge.
It's so very frustrating when people don't have any respect for others.

Im going to be honest...your rant was way to long to read

[fett]

Cliff's Notes version. All habitats in shared buildings suck wind. 1 out of 3 neighbors are assholes. HOA's will not help. Police won't do anything. Making noise and being an inconsiderate dickweed is in the rental agreement. Move to the counrty.