Chinese factory video - OSHA would croak

[skorb]

Your ignorance is shocking, yet not unexpected from those with no experience beyond CNN.

well man that statement right there just shows you haven't read my posts much. or you don't know what CNN is about.

I've laughed at your jokes though.

I have no love for aggressive communist nations and governments (China and North Korea) or aggressive 3rd world nations and governments (Mexico) which threaten the US. and I'm not apologetic about this at all.

[El_Kabong]

Ok, Skorb. Maybe I know far more about what CNN is about than what appears on the screen, or maybe I am just talking out my ass, that is of no consequence.

The government may be perceived as a powerful and frightful machine. But you generalized a whole nation made up of many languages and cultures, damning them all.

The economy is not what one may be lead to believe. I have taught engineers and biochemists that make a wage on par with Japanese counterparts. I know Chinese from many provinces and walks of life. They are kind, outgoing and fun loving people with a rich and colourful history.

We can choose our friends, but at times in history we fail in choosing our governments.

No harm, no foul. It is just an internet message board for us guitar loonies.

[hippietim]

well man that statement right there just shows you haven't read my posts much. or you don't know what CNN is about.

I've laughed at your jokes though.

I have no love for aggressive communist nations and governments (China and North Korea) or aggressive 3rd world nations and governments (Mexico) which threaten the US. and I'm not apologetic about this at all.

It's one thing to hate the governments. I'm with you there. But disregard for human life - no matter what country they live in - is not something I can fathom.

Comments like your initial one makes you look pretty ignorant. It's the same sort of ignorance that gets a large portion of the rest of the world hating Americans for the stupid acts of our government.

The difference between a Chinese factory worker and an American factory worker is just a matter of geography and circumstances. And they're both just barely getting by in life.

China is about 100 years or so behind us in terms of how the work force is composed. Everything we're all so horrified about in China was commonplace here before labor laws and unions.

[sk8boardbob2]

Not to be mean, Skateboard bob? I'll figure you'll understand what I mean (and the bitterness some people can have) when you get old enough to get off the skateboard and work painfully hard for no money. Hopefully, I'm not stereotyping or generalizing you.

How do you feel about how your government treats its people and is destroying your homeland?

Well I do have a job and I do work painfully hard for almost no money. I work at a puppy store which means scooping feces for $6 an hour. It's hard and it sucks but thankfully I will most likely go to a good college and get a high paying job.

As far as China goes, I went there last summer and the pollution is horrible. The air in the cities is almost unbreathable from the air pollution. Everywhere you go there is way too many people, cars and buses. Most likely the environment might never recover and that's sad because the countryside is very beautiful.

[skorb]

It's one thing to hate the governments. I'm with you there. But disregard for human life - no matter what country they live in - is not something I can fathom.

well Tim, the Chinese govt's disregard for human life is well-documented and they do more than post "ignorant" messages on a message board. perhaps you should take it up with them.

Comments like your initial one makes you look pretty ignorant. It's the same sort of ignorance that gets a large portion of the rest of the world hating Americans for the stupid acts of our government.

you are entitled to your opinion. it's of little matter to me. the "rest of the world" as you so carefully put it, has always hated the US, don't kid yourself.

I speak my mind and I take pride in stirring the shit in political threads. if that serves also to let you feel big by calling me ignorant in the self-righteous manner you frequently exhibit in these kinds of threads, then I suppose that's my gift to you.

[emperor_black]

The air in the cities is almost unbreathable from the air pollution.

yet, its ironical that US produces more greenhouse gases than China. China is 2nd. But its soon going to become number 1. Is it because of the land-mass vs population that we dont "feel" the pollution?

[sk8boardbob2]

^Well in the US you don't have factories in the middle of heavily populated areas.

[emperor_black]

what about the car-manufacturing factories in Detroit? And in Cincinnatti(sp?)

[Spacelord]

Wow. That video is truly amazing.. that people actually sit in the press like that. I program robots for a living and many do those types of dangerous jobs like loading and unloading presses.

[Cleveland Metal]

Well I do have a job and I do work painfully hard for almost no money. I work at a puppy store which means scooping feces for $6 an hour. It's hard and it sucks but thankfully I will most likely go to a good college and get a high paying job.

Good to hear you're working. I'll have to say that working in a puppy store isn't considered working painfully hard (maybe I've just had a hard life), but I'm sure it sucks nonetheless. Hopefully, it sucks enough to teach you to do well in college and kick ass all the way to that good paying job. Good luck.

Be VERY thankful that sort of education is available to you, and that you or your family has been able to attain the means to get it for you.

As far as China goes, I went there last summer and the pollution is horrible. The air in the cities is almost unbreathable from the air pollution. Everywhere you go there is way too many people, cars and buses. Most likely the environment might never recover and that's sad because the countryside is very beautiful.

That's terrible. I knew people that go there for business (to teach manufacturing processes to new upstart factories). And, they say it is terrible in more ways than I care to comment upon.

Shame they are going to poison themselves into such a deplorable state, all in the name of commerce.

[charvelguy]

scary.. but not nearly as bad as I thought it would be. I was thinking 600 ton press.. they'd probably be deaf after a short while, but it didn't seem they were stamping with alot of pressure. The presses you can feel in your chest within 50 ft as it stamps are the ones that were the daily reminders of safety to me.

[emperor_black]

Shame they are going to poison themselves

they are poisoning everyone! Not only themselves. I heard on the news, there are coal burning power plants cropping up on average one per day!

[Deneb]

I happen to be Chinese and ignorant comments like these are why I don't give a crap about people like you.
Think of where the US would be without foreign labor. We would not be the country we are now.

I'm not here to slam you, but the way you talk, you say that without Foreign Labor, America would not be the country we are now. When you say, "we", I assume, you mean, you, me, and the rest of America.

Not to split hairs, but you may be Chinese, but you're American right now. I don't think everyone in China should die, either, so don't think I'm saying that. It is ridiculous though, that over there, those guys are getting like 2$ a day, and Newc is probably getting 8 times that an hour.

Makes me hate my job a WHOLE lot less.

[danastas]

OSHA, EPA, and Unions are part of the reason work is being shipped over there in the first place.

Hmmm, let's see. what were thing slike before the unions in the US?

Hey, I've had problems with my union, they almost cost me my job once (I was willing to take a paycut, they told management it was unacceptable), but I'm not blind to the fact that things were bad here before the unions. Very bad, as in gun pointing at your head as you worked bad.

[danastas]

I don't give a rat's ass how many chinese happen to perish in their manufacturing processes.

keep in mind that this country is NOT our friend. they are antithetical to our interests and you can bet your ass they don't give a crap about us or you or me.

anything that decreases their population or damages their country, I'm all for.

That's pretty funny, considering they are bankrolling our whole lifestle so that we can continue to buy their crap. If China were really antithetical to the US, they could send us into a depression instantly by pulling back on currency. We owe them bigtime. not to mention the fact that China right now is a capitalist's dream. Beijing is like the wild west, anything goes. This isn't the old China.

Look at the pet food disaster. They were taking coal byproduct, adding it to wheat gluten as protein, the FDA tests were showing adequate protein in the wheat gluten, and chickens were eating it, and then we were eating chickens. That protein you're eating in chicken is partly composed of coal byproduct. Yum. Is this their way of getting back at us?