Sopranos final episode

[Firebird V]

that sucked....

[sully]

well, it's either one of two things; tony got whacked, which makes no sense, but has a "history repeating itself" kinda twinge to it, or nothing happened and life went on.

reasons for tony getting killed: bobby's statement about never seeing the one that gets you; it's just lights out and that's it. but then again, bobby saw the person who killed him. but that's not enough of a reason for him to eat it, ya know? it wouldn't make much sense; considering phil was killed with permission, and the families were at a truce. it'd also be way too lame and a huge godfather rip off if the guy that went to the bathroom came back and killed tony.

there's been a few seasons iirc that end with the family happy, together, and in a restaurant, i figured that this was another one of them. the end is that there really is no end, i guess.

the only thing imo, that casts any doubt is the instant black screen.

i would have preferred to have seen all of the ends tied up; not unlike the six feet under finale. now that was a finale.

sully

[Rsmacker]

Fucking hell, oh no oh no oh no NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. I haven't read the posts in this thread, and nor will I be coming back here, but PLEEEEEEASE, don't tell me what happened, we won't get to see it here in Britain for about 6 months.

And yet, part of me wants to have a peep and find out what happened......

This is killing me.


Noooooooooo, MUST........RESIST.

[necrotechno]

I hadn't watched it since the first season. Then only saw the first six episodes, or whatever was on the first disc. Couldn't take any more. Then I heard bits and pieces through the run about this or that happening, and it was just the same things from the first six episodes repeated ad nauseum. Hospital visits? Psychiatrist session? Gee, that's new.

The "non-ending" sounds like they just couldn't think of an ending and decided to rip off Everybody Loves Raymond.

[Firebird V]

Yeah Sully 6 ft under was a great show and a great finale. I see where you are going with the Sopranos too. I saw it the same way. The "Life goes on ending" and the Godfather tie in too but I wish they would have just gave you the ending instead of letting you decide what the final scene was.

The car running over Phil L's head was classic... lol.

[Bengal]

Well, like Sully said, quite a few seasons have ended with music high up in the mix and everyone at the restaruant. That tied in quite well. The use of Journey was interesting. As was the final message, "Remember the good times"...

I have to watch it again because I was on the edge of my seat through the whole thing waiting for Tony to get whacked...

Didn't tie up anything. Meadow is going into law because of the way the FBI treated her dad. I thought that was cool...

Was the guy at the end in the Members Only jacket an assassin? Who was out to get Tony at that point? No one. He had made ammends with New York and Phil was dead, thank god. I hated that guy...

Interesting end. It really leaves it open for new stuff, should they chose to go that way. A movie or whatever...

[Tekky]

David Chase is a genius.

He wrote an ending that everyone will be talking about and speculating on. "Did he get whacked, or didn't he?" Therefore, expanding the interest/intrigue of The Sopranos. It is said that 3 possible endings were filmed. Did we see any of them?

I don't think we've actually heard the end of the Soprano family. In some form of media, they'll be back.

[atomic charvel guy]

that ending sucked the big one. HBO's server went down due to the amount of disappointed viewers e-mails flooding the joint. I'm sorry, but for a 7 year series, that ending sucked and has ruined what was once a cool show to follow. SUCK, SUCK,SUCK.
No ending whatsoever.

[sl2lover]

It sucked!!

[Shawn Lutz]

I thought it was a pretty good ending...everyone expected a whacking and David Chase isn't all about giving in to whats expected they did a great job at the end...I think they resolved a lot of the characters...the Soparno's live on but not filmed My guess is they left it open for either a box office movie or maybe even a return series some day..."don't stop believin" . What was weired was rapid or non-fade to black...I actually thought my DirecTV receiver died....

I guess Phil is now Chuck...as in wheel chuck

[Bengal]

Shawn,
I totally agree. When it hit black, I thought my DVR did the chicken. My wife and I sat there staring at each other wondering if that's how it was supposed to end. Then the credits hit, with no music, and it was over...

I think that it was a good ending. It had an impact. That's all that matters with this series, the impact...

Did anyone else think the cat was a reincarnated Chris? That part of the story was pretty funny. And Tony and his animals. I would have liked to see the ducks come back but the cat was pretty good...

[VinceV]

I dug it. I thought the ending was great. At 1st I thought oh well life goes on. Then I started thinking about it and started reading some of the forums and now I think Tony may have been killed.

Remember the conversations Tony and Bobby had on the boat about when you "get it". You wouldn't even know, everything would just go black. On top of that the guy sitting at the counter who goes to the bathroom is Phil's cousin, from a few episodes ago. So who knows.

Great ending, it's all up to you.

[Shawn Lutz]

VinceV I thought the same thing about "you never see it coming" conversation with Bobby but felt that since NJ and NY had a truce that whacking Tony wouldnt make sense.....but payback from Phil's cousin would make some sense

[horns666]

All I know is my dad called me and just said .."What The Fuck"..he wasn't happy...which made me kinda happy that he was all bent..

[Tetsuo]

Quoted from my friend on another site

My dad found a great quote from Chase from 2001:

I don’t think art should give answers. I think art should only pose questions. And art should not fill in blanks for people, or I think that’s what’s called propaganda. I think art should only raise questions, a lot of which may be even dissonant and you don’t even know you’re being asked a question, but that it creates some kind of tension inside you.

My brother's take on teh last scene anticipated that some (he wrote this before my dad sent that out to us and our uncle, we're discussing):

To me, I thought the ending was carefully crafted NOT to have any
particular meaning. After all, this was a series where the moral
questions of what should, what ought to happen were never meant to
be answered. "The Sopranos" never attempted to give any easy moral
answers; if anything, it sought to undermine our closely held
beliefs by raising moral questions. How else to explain a series
which ultimately left us rooting FOR, not against, a sociopathic
murderer?

The ending--or lack thereof--then stays consistent with the series
as a whole. Instead of providing a neat and tidy answer to all our
moral questions (should Tony be punished for his crimes, either
through a mob hit, an arrest and trial, etc.? should he get away
with it?), it leaves us wondering. Ultimately, as in life, there
are no easy answers, and it's up for us to decide.

And then, what I said:

Yeah, it really highlighted, also, the inherent tension in their life. When his capos aren't getting murdered, Tony and his family are able to push all that tension to the back, but its always there, and in a lot of ways, the show was about, more than anything, his family, the way they related to one another and drowned out that tension in the everydayness of their lives.

Fitting, then, to end with them sitting down for a family dinner, relaxed, oblivious, while the audience was on the edge of their seats, just *waiting* for something to happen. Never in the series was that tension more fully on display. I mean, if you weren't waiting for something to happen, if the camera decided not to track those guys walking in...they all would've been completely innocuous. Except we know the lifestyle Tony leads, we know he could get arrested or shot at any time...

We all wanted closure, we wanted Chase to tell us how we ought to feel about this all, but in the end, Chase never intended or wanted to answer the questions, and what's more, I do agree those answers would've cheapened the whole show. It's too comfortable to end that way. Instead, we end with Tony still under the threat of a federal indictment, still having questions about Paulie's loyalties, still in position to get killed at any team, existing in a world filled with people he's wronged...and his entire family still blocking all that out to preserve the illusion (reality?) of their big happy family.

I dunno, I thought it was spot on.