what the hell is canada's problem.

[Axewielder]

The harp seal population is about 5 million. The population of humans is 6.6 billion. That means killing one seal is, relatively speaking, the same as bludgeoning 1320 people (as far as the percentage of the total population goes).

Leave the goddamn seals alone, eh?

[cookiemonster2]

If you want to complain about the seal hunt tell it to these guys:

Stephen Harper, Prime Minister email: [email protected]

Loyola Hearn, Minister of Fisheries and Oceans email: [email protected]

Jim Prentice, Minister of Indian Affairs and Northern Development email: [email protected]

Now who do I complain to in the US about stopping the killing and maiming of innocent children in Iraq?

I'm well aware that killing children is not an apples to apples comparison to hunting baby seals. Killing children is worse but some of you ratonalize it. Your government makes politically expedient decisions and so does ours sometimes. On the balance I think ours does a pretty good job relative to others internationally so fuck off with the "what the hell is canada's problem"?

[Carbuff]

Me too. The natives around here are always causing shit because of their land claims. They put up blockades on major highways, brandish firearms, and generally act like a bunch of terrorists. What do the police do about it? They send in negotiators!!!

Jesus fucking christ. If it was anyone else, you'd be getting beat the fuck down, as is proper.

Yeah, they all need to be herded up into reservations and taught how to build a casino like real North American natives do.:ROTF:

[rjohnstone]

I'm well aware that killing children is not an apples to apples comparison to hunting baby seals. Killing children is worse but some of you ratonalize it. Your government makes politically expedient decisions and so does ours sometimes. On the balance I think ours does a pretty good job relative to others internationally so fuck off with the "what the hell is canada's problem"?

Cookie I suggest you drop it.
You have no fucking clue what you are talking about.
If you believe the anti-war activists BS propaganda, you're part of the problem, not the solution.
Yes... shit happens in a war, but a good majority of those children are killed by their own fucking people, not US or British soldiers.
WE don't intentionally kill children. They, the fucking nut job insurgents, are the ones driving car bombs into crowded public places and killing as many innocent men, women and CHILDREN as THEY can.
They are the ones that are attacking their own citizens in some fucked up belief that it will hurt us. All it's doing is hurting innocent people.
I have friends that are still over there and NO, they are not killing any children. They are trying to rebuild all the shit that the insurgents keep destroying.
This is a personal spot with me and other members here so I suggest you step off.

[Argos]

It just baffles me that this is allowed in a manner that is similar to regular hunting of game animals. I don't support Alaskan whaling by indigenous tribes there, but I do see a legacy and potential rationalization for it. Nobody has really answered as to if this occurs largely by Inuit tribes in Canada.

I do give Canada some (a tiny bit) of credit. They did ban all hunting of the whitecoat seals (the baby hood seals seen in all the inflammatory images), although that really just seems to be a concession in order to cull ammunition for protesters. Not like those seals would survive anyway when they beat their mothers to death.

And we can't just rag on Canada, other countries do it too.

The real thing that pisses me off about this issue (and most animal rights issues) is the total lack of an unbiased report. Animal activists will write one way because they're pissed, and hunters and government agencies will write another way because they're profiting. We'll never really know the numbers of seals that are killed improperly, skinned alive, or the real ecological impact of the hunt until a true third party investigates. And that's just how it is.

[straycat]

Keeping silent makes ME guilty of killing baby seals how trite.Tyring to put the blame on someone no where near the killing is so arrogant.
In a combat situation a woman or child can be an enemy you never know.You don't want to drill them but sometimes you have no choice.

[Endrik]

doesn't Norway have the same kind of problem with Free Willy's?

[zeegler]

Regardless of whether there are worse things in the world, it's inhumane, and unnecessary. That is a fact. Synthetic fur is cheaper, and just as good these days. Even if it wasn't, clubbing the baby seals in the head is fucking disgusting. There is no excuse, and no justification whatsoever. I say ban the sale of real fur entirely, and then there won't be a market for it.

[rjohnstone]

Regardless of whether there are worse things in the world, it's inhumane, and unnecessary. That is a fact. Synthetic fur is cheaper, and just as good these days. Even if it wasn't, clubbing the baby seals in the head is fucking disgusting. There is no excuse, and no justification whatsoever. I say ban the sale of real fur entirely, and then there won't be a market for it.

+1

[~K~]

[Joe_Steeler]

This is fucked up!!
War sucks.
Slaughter of innocent seals sucks.
Those pictures suck.

Mankind sucks.
In general life sucks.

Nobody wins........

[Bengal65]

Cookie I suggest you drop it.
You have no fucking clue what you are talking about.
If you believe the anti-war activists BS propaganda, you're part of the problem, not the solution.
Yes... shit happens in a war, but a good majority of those children are killed by their own fucking people, not US or British soldiers.
WE don't intentionally kill children. They, the fucking nut job insurgents, are the ones driving car bombs into crowded public places and killing as many innocent men, women and CHILDREN as THEY can.
They are the ones that are attacking their own citizens in some fucked up belief that it will hurt us. All it's doing is hurting innocent people.
I have friends that are still over there and NO, they are not killing any children. They are trying to rebuild all the shit that the insurgents keep destroying.
This is a personal spot with me and other members here so I suggest you step off.

+1

[rjohnstone]

Fear not. I said my piece... I'm out.

[~K~]

Fear not. I said my piece... I'm out.

Wasn't for you, just the tone of the thread in general seems to be getting heated ...

[kelly user]

Cookie I suggest you drop it.
You have no fucking clue what you are talking about.
If you believe the anti-war activists BS propaganda, you're part of the problem, not the solution.
Yes... shit happens in a war, but a good majority of those children are killed by their own fucking people, not US or British soldiers.
WE don't intentionally kill children. They, the fucking nut job insurgents, are the ones driving car bombs into crowded public places and killing as many innocent men, women and CHILDREN as THEY can.
They are the ones that are attacking their own citizens in some fucked up belief that it will hurt us. All it's doing is hurting innocent people.
I have friends that are still over there and NO, they are not killing any children. They are trying to rebuild all the shit that the insurgents keep destroying.
This is a personal spot with me and other members here so I suggest you step off.

It just baffles me that this is allowed in a manner that is similar to regular hunting of game animals. I don't support Alaskan whaling by indigenous tribes there, but I do see a legacy and potential rationalization for it. Nobody has really answered as to if this occurs largely by Inuit tribes in Canada.

I do give Canada some (a tiny bit) of credit. They did ban all hunting of the whitecoat seals (the baby hood seals seen in all the inflammatory images), although that really just seems to be a concession in order to cull ammunition for protesters. Not like those seals would survive anyway when they beat their mothers to death.

And we can't just rag on Canada, other countries do it too.

The real thing that pisses me off about this issue (and most animal rights issues) is the total lack of an unbiased report. Animal activists will write one way because they're pissed, and hunters and government agencies will write another way because they're profiting. We'll never really know the numbers of seals that are killed improperly, skinned alive, or the real ecological impact of the hunt until a true third party investigates. And that's just how it is.

Regardless of whether there are worse things in the world, it's inhumane, and unnecessary. That is a fact. Synthetic fur is cheaper, and just as good these days. Even if it wasn't, clubbing the baby seals in the head is fucking disgusting. There is no excuse, and no justification whatsoever. I say ban the sale of real fur entirely, and then there won't be a market for it.

This is fucked up!!
War sucks.
Slaughter of innocent seals sucks.
Those pictures suck.

Mankind sucks.
In general life sucks.

Nobody wins........

+1