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    Last Monday evening as my Dad was getting ready for work, he gets a phone call from a collection agency saying that Chase Manhattan turned my Mom's account over to them, stating it was standard procedure when the cardholder passes away. They want to know how soon we can get them the whole $4K payoff, and my Dad asks to speak to the negotiator so he can work out a payment schedule.

    Dude gets on the phone and agrees to a $3600 payoff if it can be done the next day, and my Dad agrees to it. He gives the guy his Checking account info and since it's almost 6pm, they have to wait till morning to initiate the transfer.

    After he leaves the house, my Dad calls and says there was a bill from Chase in the mailbox, and wondered aloud why they were sending a bill for an account that was turned over to collections.

    When he gets home at 7am the next morning, he calls Chase and after considerable runaround finally learns that Chase did NOT turn that account over to a collection agency.

    So I hop online and transfer everything out of his Checking account to his Savings account, and he had to call the bank to tell them what was going on. The bank agreed that dumping everything into Savings was a good idea in that situation, and they would go ahead and set up an entirely new Checking account.

    The Collection Agency (Ommnium Worldwide) has not called back yet. I wish they would, I've got a nasty surprise for them.


    This sort of thing happens every day, and the Authorities know it happens every day. Since it is so widespread and so financially devastating, I cannot understand why Congress has not declared such activities Treason and/or Terrorism (both punishable by death).

    I would love to have the bank account number that was used to ping my Dad's account (though we never heard if they tried it).
    If they call back and mention the bank accoutn was empty, I'll tell them I'm calling the bank to see what the problem is, and instead call the phone company on my cell phone and have the call traced. I'll definitely mention that the caller is engaging in Terrorist activity - that'll bring the Feds into it.

    Then when I find out who they are I'll kill their children. Slowly.
    I want to depart this world the same way I arrived; screaming and covered in someone else's blood

    The most human thing we can do is comfort the afflicted and afflict the comfortable.

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  • #2
    F**kers scamming on the family of the deceased? That's double-dog dirty. Scumbags.

    Newc, don't go reporting false terrorist activity. You could wind up subject to charges yourself, bro.

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    • #3
      That sucks!! I will NOT talk to/give out any information to unsolicited callers. However, situations such as these don't even come close to fitting the definition (legal or otherwise) of treason or terrorism, IMHO.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Thrust View Post
        That sucks!! I will NOT talk to/give out any information to unsolicited callers. However, situations such as these don't even come close to fitting the definition (legal or otherwise) of treason or terrorism, IMHO.
        I agree. They're worse than treason and terrorism combined.

        Maybe the legal definition should be expanded to include these two.
        I want to depart this world the same way I arrived; screaming and covered in someone else's blood

        The most human thing we can do is comfort the afflicted and afflict the comfortable.

        My Blog: http://newcenstein.com

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        • #5
          Tell them you need to have a credit card to confirm their identity so your bank will allow the wire transfer. Once you get their credit card number, go to slayer.net and buy 4 of everything in their store. They'll have a huge debt and you'll have a crapload of overpriced merch to give to the homeless.

          I sure hope you catch these guys, but it's not likely a legit collection company called right?

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          • #6
            These lame credit card companies and banks could be doing soooooo much more as far as setting traps and doing investigations and tightening things down. They couldn't be bothered. They'd rather just hand you a new card and write off the losses to the insurance companies.
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            • #7
              Is this a case of fraud or is it one of these companies that doesn't go as far as committing an outright crime, but use cunning and guile to get you to switch over to their business by bending the facts and not telling you the whole story?

              I get phone calls from companies who "will renew my Orange mobile phone contract" at a stunning rate, blah blah, can I just confirm my account details. Hang on, if you are "renewing" my contract, you already have my details.....? Ah, turns out they aren't actually authorised by Orange, despite giving that impression, they are just fishing around looking to poach accounts, and meanwhile gather all my personal data, bank account details etc.
              They know they haven't stepped totally over the line, and probably get away with it with many people who don't question them and simply rabbit their details down the phone to anyone who sounds like a call-centre op asking for confirmation of ID. I say, fuck you, you phoned ME, I'm not confirming MY identity.

              It wouldn't surprise me if the company in this case were very very careful not to actually state outright that the account had been turned over to them, "as standard practice", using everything BUT those words, leaving it to the duped customer to conclude it is all legit, even to the point of swearing they had been told certain things by the smooth talking bastard on the other end of the line. They may have misled your Dad, but not actually made a fraudulent claim - and there will always be some slippery lawyer able to prove strictly speaking it isn't a crime if he jumped to the wrong conclusion.

              Either way, it is wrong, it's fraud by any other name, and yes, Newc should hang the perpetrators with piano wire!

              Then post the video of them twitching on Youtube with a goofy soundtrack, so we can put the link on Horns' "WTF??" thread.
              So I woke up,rolled over and who was lying next to me? Only Bonnie Langford!

              I nearly broke her back

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              • #8
                Threatening to kill kids ain't too cool either.
                "Quiet, numbskulls, I'm broadcasting!" -Moe Howard, "Micro-Phonies" (1945)

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                • #9
                  Terrorists are working to undermine and destroy the US economy. Fraud artists help their cause, draw your own conclusions..........

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