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Originally posted by Spivonious View PostNice! So they have a base in Virginia? That's good to know. Are there any up closer to PA?I want REAL change. I want dead bodies littering the capitol.
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Originally posted by hippietim View PostLeverage with who?
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MS put it in to prevent lawsuits from the RIAA and MPAA.
Since the RIAA and MPAA cannot catch everyone, they're starting to go after the software vendors.
Like those asshats that are trying to sue gun makers because some fuck nut uses it in an illegal manner. Instead of blaming the user of the tool, they're blaming the maker of the tool.-Rick
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Yeah, I'm with you on that. And the point is that MS is in the ideal position to make a stand for its users and not cave in to this sort of BS. But instead it appears (from the outside anyway) that MS simply bent over and took it up the ass. When DrDoug made this point Tim responded with "you have no idea what you are talking about." So I'm wondering what is the real story?
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The DRM issue is my sole point against Vista. I too figured that Microsoft would take a stand and not encumber their new OS with DRM stuff. Heck, they put up more of a fight over their Internet Explorer! To me it seems that Microsoft just caved and gave RIAA/MPAA everything they wanted and stuck the consumer with the end result.
I have no problem upgrading hardware to support an OS, but doing so in part to comply with restrictions on my computer (in performance and usage) is just unfair, IMO. If it was passive and did not impact performance, then I might have a different opinion. As I have said, I own every item and I don't engage in ripping or BitTorrent stuff. So I have no concern, but I have read more than enough that some who have a legal release of a DVD find that they are unable to play them. That would piss me off royally.
I also do video editing (home movies and the like) and I have read that Vista is fine with that. But I go visit the Canopus and Matrox forums and people are having all kinds of problems with Vista and editing (using high end hardware). Matrox wants a couple of grand for their Vista solution, but after the nightmare I had to go through to get the XP stuff to cooperate, I am in no hurry to change. The system works like a charm now, and I am in no hurry to go through it all again.
Tim, if you could enlighten us a bit more (without crossing any NDA you may have!), that sure would be cool. To me, with all that Microsoft has fought for in developing their Windows products, they just folded on this issue. In doing so, IMO they have now set a precedent that other OS builders might also be held to.
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I don't really know anything about why Microsoft put all the DRM stuff in really. But it seems to me that they have a lot of their own reasons to put it in. They are publishers themselves, of software, video games, etc. Also, they have always built DRM of some kind or another into their OSes, the new thing here seems to be the DRM for video, music, and other kinds of data.
Apple hasn't exactly left this stuff out either. They actually started using DRM for music some time ago in their Apple music store. In any case, it seems there is plenty of DRM in the future, whether we like it or not"It's hard to be enigmatic if you have to go around explaining yourself all the time"
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