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  • My Trendkill Rant..for the love of shred.

    The 80's...or let's say 1978..fuggit 1970!

    But Let's stick with the beloved 80's..

    The birth and "death" of metal/shred!

    I see a good portion of this board in love with the 80's ..as they should be. It was a great time for guitar and music. I know this, because I was there, as a fan and player. I watched the birth to every single guitar trick and nuance. The Great Ones" cultivated and perfected everything and anything you can do with a guitar. Every Tap, Arpeggio, Squeal, Dive bomb, Guitar and Amp mods. Many held onto that style and did not bend with the anti-guitar trends. Staying loyal to King Edward, Bratta, Lee, Lynch, Randy, Warren D, Greg Howe, Tony Mac, Michael Batio, Satch, Vai, Friedman, Rhodes, Oliva and the mighty Yngwinator and ect ..

    People thought shred was "dead"..but didn't realize it was still going on. It wasn't promoted, therefore it wasn't popular, therfore it didn't exist. WRONG!

    In the dark age of shred-kill. When Grunge and the Ebonic Plague infested the mainstream. So many reguarded all was lost and actually listened to what was spoonfed to them. It was "cool", and catchy and played constantly until you liked it. I was the most "Uncool" fucker I know. I kept my finger on the pulse of shred and it NEVER left my life. It just went deep underground and hyperboiled into a pissed off frenzy. Like a volcano ready to erupt (pun) at any moment. It was almost 15 years that we did not hear a guitar solo featuring the virtuocity of "The Great Ones".

    Some of those Great ones became greater and some threw the towel. It had to be extremely depressing as hell that your "gift" was no longer "cool". That drove many into depression, the bottle, dope, and rehab. Some made it back. I see Ed is focused..I hope he stays that way. He seems certainly back in form, I never thought I'd see the day. What Ed did wasn't cared for or loved anymore. I heard he tried out for Limp Biscuit when Wes Borland left..which was more than rumor. That would be a square peg in a round hole.

    BUT..

    While Bratta, Nuno, and the likes of Steve Lynch vanished. MANY who refused to bend continued to honed their skills ..learned by "The Great Ones", and ran with it without much notice in the States. It was still huge in Japan..via the endless, expensive import releases I had to buy. Whatever your fancy, it was still breathing, it never "died". I'm NOT talking European anthemic "Power Metal". I'm speaking of music that you swore was THE 80's..such as Takara, Ten, Gotthard, Pretty Maids, Jaded Heart, Talon, Shakra, Millenium, Royal Hunt, Pink Cream 69, Fair Warning, Conquest, Chroming Rose, Dirty Deeds, Seven Wishes, Street Legal..the list is endless. Not only do the bands sound exactly like the 80's but they put so much effort to refine their love for it, with many releases not acknowleged. How many actually know Whitesnake put out a realease when Limp Dipshit ruled America..???

    Not many here mentions these bands. Most just share memories of "The Great Ones", and I share those memories. I never understood that "shred" and 80's influenced music was "dead", when I was buying it in hordes. I always had to defend true metal with those who bought into the mainstream. They became content with dummied down, bar chord chuggin', TREND-POP..without a solo to be heard. While I was listening to all the new releases that were pouring in at approx 30 bucks a pop. To debate this, one must know both sides. I was debating to those that only knew one side of the coin. I knew all about Korn, Lincoln Park, Slipknot, Rage against the machine, Limp Biscuit, Creed, Staind, Godsmack, Disturbed and ect..but they do NOT know the bands which existed in my world. Well, It wasn't promoted or easily availuable, therfore it didn't exist. Many accepted to eat what was fed to them..a steady diet of "Nu". This was like explaining the color blue to Ray Charles. Now they have a better picture what I was talking about. Metal is back in the mainstream, it's promoted, and availuable at Walmart and Best Buy. I'd NEVER believe 5 years ago I could buy "metal" T-shirt at the fuggin' Mall..even "Satanic" bands. Now I feel jipped. What is my lifestyle is now easily availuble at Hot Topic for the kiddies..."Get your pentagrams here..red hot pentagrams..get 'em while they're hot!!!"

    What I used to find in the dollar bins for years now cost 15 buck and more..

    I'd go to "metal" shows and there would be a dozen people there. I'd hang with the likes of Jeff Loomis, Mike Amott, and Chris Broderick at the bar "bored", so I made them laugh. Now metal bands from all over the world are coming thru town every single week. I'm meeting Ace at Edguy/Firewind/Into Eternity..then Arch Enemy the week after.

    Trend will ALWAYS die..but metal is forever!!!

    See what I'm saying..

    Bill Z Bub
    "Bill, Smoke a Bowl and Crank Van Halen I, Life is better when I do that"
    Donnie Swanstrom 01/25/06..miss ya!

    "Well, your friend would have Bell's Palsy, which is a facial paralysis, not "Balls Pelsy" like we're joking about here." Toejam's attempt at sensitivity.

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    While most guitar rags/players were praising the likes of Wes Borland, Tom Morello, and Mark Tremonti..

    I was enjoying "The Great Ones"..

    Here's is SOME, not all of "The Great Ones"...

    Uli Roth
    Eddie Van Halen
    Criss Oliva
    Randy Rhoads
    Jeff Waters
    Yngwie Malmsteen
    Tony MacAlpine
    Allan Holdsworth
    Shawn Lane
    Jason Becker
    Eric Rutan
    Pat O'Brian
    Marty Friedman
    Greg Howe
    Ritchie Kotzen
    John Sykes
    Jeff Loomis
    Jeff Beck
    Steve Vai
    Joe Satriani
    Jennifer Batten
    Michael Faith
    Rusty Cooley
    Michael Lee Firkins
    Reb Beach
    Olaf Lenk
    Joe Stump
    Andre Corbin
    Tim Calvert
    Chris Impelliteri.
    Magnus Karlsson
    Gus G.
    Franck Kobolt
    Chuck Shuldiner
    Peter Lake
    Gary Werhkamp
    Stefan Berg
    Daniel Mongrain
    Pier-Luc Lampron
    Mike Romeo
    Glen Drover
    Christian Muenzner
    Brednt Allman
    Vinnie Moore
    Paul Gilbert
    Steve Stevens
    Derek Frigo
    George Lynch
    Steve Morse
    Steve Lukather
    Frank Marino
    Zakk Wylde
    Dimebag Darrel
    Neil Schon
    Blues Saraceno
    Joey Tafolla
    Harry Cody
    Jonas Hanson
    James Murphy
    Alexi Laiho
    Roope Latava
    David Gilmore
    Gary Moore
    Alex Scolnick
    Al Petrelli
    Ritchie Blackmoore
    Jimmy Page
    Jimi Hendrix
    SRV
    Michael Schenker
    Akira Takasaki
    Michael "Angelo" Batio
    Jeff Waters
    Craid Goldy
    Doug Aldrich
    Tony Iommi
    Tommy Vetrelli
    John Norum
    John Petrucci
    Tore Otsby
    Ronnie Le Tekro
    Patrick Rondat
    Nuno Bettencourt
    Vivian Cambell
    Kee Marcello
    Adrian Vandenburg
    Tony Fredianelli
    James Byrd
    Roland Grapow
    Andy Larocque
    Mike Wead
    Victor Smolski
    Eric Johnson
    Joshua Perahia
    Chris Broderick
    Jarno Keskinen
    Damir Uzunovic
    Peter Espenoza
    Pete Blakk
    Michael Denner
    Hank Sherman
    Andre Segovia
    George Bellas
    Carlos Montoya
    Al DiMeola
    Scott Henderson
    Stanley Jorden
    Alex Masi
    Axel Rudi Pell
    Victor Smolski
    Chris Poland
    Warren DiMartini
    Bruce Bouillet
    Luca Turelli
    Gary Werhkamp
    Django Rheinhart (sp?)
    Eddie Antonini
    Thomas Wolf
    Timo Tolki
    Frank Gambale
    Mark Mcgee
    Jaron Sebastian
    Brad Gillis
    Jeff Watson
    Jake E Lee
    Buckethead
    Alvin Lee
    Brian Setzer
    James Murphy
    Phil Keagy
    Magnus Nilsson
    Roy Z
    Ralph Santolla
    Vitto Bratta
    Steve Lynch
    Stephan Lil
    Frank Zappa
    Mike Amott
    Chris Amott
    James Malone
    Kristian Niemann
    Vinny Burns
    John Halliwell
    Theodore Ziras
    Tim Mills
    Jorn Viggo Lofstad
    Helge Engelke..(Uli Guitar)
    Zeno Roth..smokes Richie Sambora!!

    If you're not familiar with any of these players. I strongly urge you to investigate. Let them not shred in vain any longer..Google them and listen!

    SEARCH for the best music out there, and don't settle for whatever's popular.

    Bill Z Bub
    Last edited by horns666; 09-18-2007, 08:47 PM.
    "Bill, Smoke a Bowl and Crank Van Halen I, Life is better when I do that"
    Donnie Swanstrom 01/25/06..miss ya!

    "Well, your friend would have Bell's Palsy, which is a facial paralysis, not "Balls Pelsy" like we're joking about here." Toejam's attempt at sensitivity.

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    • #3
      Just take any fuggin' name and try youtubin' it..

      I been doin' that all night.
      "Bill, Smoke a Bowl and Crank Van Halen I, Life is better when I do that"
      Donnie Swanstrom 01/25/06..miss ya!

      "Well, your friend would have Bell's Palsy, which is a facial paralysis, not "Balls Pelsy" like we're joking about here." Toejam's attempt at sensitivity.

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      • #4
        Love the list. Share the sentiment. I hit college in 92 & couldn't figure out WTF happened to the music- I hated. HATED. hated. Grunge. Maybe more than I should have.

        I always thought it felt like a joke. Seriously, project yourself back to the early 90's. You went from guys that utterly tore up their instruments & guys that could sing/scream like a friggin' eagle to some asshole whining about how upset he was that there was a run in his stocking.

        My brother summed it up- We went from having either a good time ("GIRLS! GIRLS! GIRLS!") or Screaming for Vengence to the utter internalization of everything- The endless, depressing navel gazing, the weeping, the "poor me and my feelings".

        Rock & Roll always bitched about authority, about shitty people, about anger, but with grunge it changed into something else- it turned into not songs about the shitty people or telling authority to stick it but into HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT AUTHORITY AND SHITTY PEOPLE AND HOW IT MAKES YOU SO VERY SAD. There is a HUGE difference there.

        So with that came self-esteem music, and if you can't play your instrument, who cares. Nobody needs to be truly "great". Just be "ok". What matters is that you FEEL. YOU FEEL SO VERY VERY MUCH. That is enough! So go learn 3 chords and cry.

        There were transitional bands between "hair metal" and truly pathetic grunge, bands like Sound Garden and even some Pearl Jam that had a bit of an edge to it and some musicianship. But even they were pissing in the faces of true musicians who had the NERVE to write songs about SOMETHING FUN AND HAPPY!. Yeah ok, Dokken sucks? Really? Tell ya what, let's put Stone Gossard & Lynch in a room and see what the fuck is what. Let's take Chris Novoselic and Lemmy together on stage and see what happens.

        You got me all fired up Horns...

        Vass
        Last edited by Vass; 09-18-2007, 08:12 AM.

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        • #5
          Exactly man..

          Metal is rebellion, indulgence, agnst and conveyed in a high calibre , maximum velocity, teflon bullet to the head of all that's lame.

          It's happening again..the pussies are coming back..but at least they are TRYING to play guitars again..basically going thru the motions. ALL TRENDS lose identitiy whenever everyone wants to sound and look like each other...cookie cutting cock fuckers.

          Let's follow the trends metaheads hated..umm..disco, MTV-video killed the radio star "pop", hair metal, rock ballads, unplugged (WTF??) , rap, grunge, hip hop, nu, rap, rap metal, nu metal , nu rap metal, rap nu metal..boooooom DEAD DEAD DEAD!!!

          Never thought disco could sound that good in hindsight.. You know shit is sucking balls when Disco starts to sound good.

          WAR..the climate of hatred, vengeance and even joy is in the air..We want METAL!!!!

          True Metal and shredding is ALWAYS.."fun"...Mommy buy me Guitar Hero II!!!!

          Even if you don't like death or black metal. Try cranking some Slayer or Immortal while driving like a fucking maniac.. NU metal makes you wanna dance and poop in your baggy pants. Metal is the ONLY soundtrack to kickin' ass with a steel-toe boot!

          Virtuocity and Evil always seem to go hand in hand..

          Rev. B Fuggums
          Last edited by horns666; 09-18-2007, 10:20 AM.
          "Bill, Smoke a Bowl and Crank Van Halen I, Life is better when I do that"
          Donnie Swanstrom 01/25/06..miss ya!

          "Well, your friend would have Bell's Palsy, which is a facial paralysis, not "Balls Pelsy" like we're joking about here." Toejam's attempt at sensitivity.

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          • #6
            Quit jackin around,Bill.Tell us how you really feel!....Seriously,I could'nt agree with you more.From the first time at the music store when you heard that fat,distorted power chord ring out,it became life altering.It's also the common thread we all share.Think of all the people you have met because of your love for music ,not just any music,MetalMusic!Great list,Bill.........
            Straightjacket Memories.Sedative Highs...........

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            • #7
              I can relate more to rock'n'roll and punk than metal.... rock is about getting pussy and punk is more rebellious than anything else
              "There is nothing more fearful than imagination without taste" - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

              "To be stupid, selfish and have good health are three requirements for happiness, though if stupidity is lacking, all is lost" - Gustave Flaubert

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              • #8
                Fuckin' A Timmy..

                gotta "keep it real"..

                Hail Metal Brothers!!!

                Bill Z Bub
                "Bill, Smoke a Bowl and Crank Van Halen I, Life is better when I do that"
                Donnie Swanstrom 01/25/06..miss ya!

                "Well, your friend would have Bell's Palsy, which is a facial paralysis, not "Balls Pelsy" like we're joking about here." Toejam's attempt at sensitivity.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Endrik View Post
                  I can relate more to rock'n'roll and punk than metal.... rock is about getting pussy and punk is more rebellious than anything else
                  Yeah..I like the energy early Punk had and the infleunce it did have on metal. I know that your down with musicianship..and disect music like a bug while you enjoy songs about poon divin'...

                  I like double kicks as I hump my wife's ass..it only takes me a minute..so I always blow chum during the solo.

                  that's true!!

                  Bill Z
                  "Bill, Smoke a Bowl and Crank Van Halen I, Life is better when I do that"
                  Donnie Swanstrom 01/25/06..miss ya!

                  "Well, your friend would have Bell's Palsy, which is a facial paralysis, not "Balls Pelsy" like we're joking about here." Toejam's attempt at sensitivity.

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                  • #10
                    Pretty Maids.....future world......awesome.
                    Why hunt ... when there is no machine gun season?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by riffraff View Post
                      Pretty Maids.....future world......awesome.
                      Absolutely..

                      Had that on the other day..

                      You get 666 horns up!!!
                      "Bill, Smoke a Bowl and Crank Van Halen I, Life is better when I do that"
                      Donnie Swanstrom 01/25/06..miss ya!

                      "Well, your friend would have Bell's Palsy, which is a facial paralysis, not "Balls Pelsy" like we're joking about here." Toejam's attempt at sensitivity.

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                      • #12
                        Damn Bill are you writing a freaking book!!!
                        Metalontology?
                        Mr. Patience.... ask for a free consultation.

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                        • #13
                          Alvin Lee is my all-time fav. He could do it all."Ten Years After" was one of the best bands ever.
                          I am a true ass set to this board.

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                          • #14
                            Shredology Vol 1?
                            Mr. Patience.... ask for a free consultation.

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                            • #15
                              Horns is full of it. And, I mean that in the most complimentary way.
                              I am a true ass set to this board.

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