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  • #16
    Hey, thanks for the input guys! It was strange to see this quote from skorb: "I cannot imagine diving in a lake or such.
    just the concept of not being able to see beyond your forearms in muddy water is something that creeps the fuck out of me."

    That was pretty much the deal. We were on one of our open water cert dives, and the visibility was like 2 ft. It had been a very busy day at the lake, so the water was very rough. The instructor said that when we got to depth the water would clear up, so we thought no big deal. What happened was the water never cleared, but the instructor kept going deeper. We figured he would abort the dive early, but the MF just kept going. Now remember, this was a shore dive, so as we were going deeper, we were also going way out into the lake. My dive buddy was my wife, and the first and foremost thing you're taught in scuba is to look out for your buddy above all else. I eventually let her get a little ahead just so I could see her. Thank god she has bright neon pink fins, or there's no way I could have seen her, and still had to stay close enough that I was having to avoid her fin kicks. We were both supposed to be folowing the instructor, but, at about 35 feet, the instructor just disappeared into the depth. We were instructed that if we lost him, stay put, and he would find us. Well, we were trying to "stay put", but were freaking out in that cold dark murky water. We both freaked out so bad that we were trying to control hyperventilating. After a couple of minutes we said fuck it, and surfaced . It was almost impossible to control the ascent because of the visibility (or lack thereof), and neither of us could really see our guage console. We just inflated the BC and went up. It seemed slow enough, but it was probably a bit speedy. When we reached the surface it seemed we were a mile from the shoreline. About half way back the instructor popped up, and said he couldn't find us. Anyway, it was a very long swim back, especially under the stress we had endured. When we got on the shore the instructor acted like it was no biggie.....but to us un-experienced divers it was one of the scariest events in our lives! We used to skydive regularly until the two children, so that put that sport on hold for awhile. Everybody said that skydiving was much more scary than scuba diving, so we thought there would never be any fear involved. We've both jumped from 15,000 feet into clouds and NEVER been as scared as we were yesterday!
    Anyway, to you experienced divers that may not sound like much of a story, but to us it was something we'll never forget. Today we go back for two more open water dives, then we're certified. What we're questioning right now is that if the water is still as murky (the instructor insured us it wouldn't be) do we abort, or go ahead with it. This time of year is bad because next week the water could turn over and there will be no more diving (students) for the winter. That would mean waiting until next summer for the certifications.........which would also mean that our planned ocean diving on our trip to the east coast next month would be impossible. We've been planning that trip all summer, and this would really suck. Not to mention that we've spent a ton of cash on the scuba gear, which would just sit there all winter for us to stare at wondering...what if?
    Anyway, that's the story. I appreciate the experienced divers input.
    My goal in life is to be the kind of asshole my wife thinks I am.

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    • #17
      NAUI open water 1 and Open water 2 here. 120+ dives, a good portion of which were at night in LI sound, so though I am not "specially" certified, I can do blind navigation and night.

      Sounds like your instructor was a bit negligent - he should swin slow enough for you guys to keep up, or should keep an eye out for you.

      You did right to stay with your partner. Just keep an eye on the fast ascents - if you were at depth long enough, that could have been a problem.
      If you remained calm enough under those conditions (no instructor, kept with your partner, waited a bit, got your breath under control, made a decision to stay within your abilities and comfort zone, and did a sort of controlled ascent), sounds like you can handle diving anywhere - minus the addition of currents or a penetration dive.
      Stick with it - and good luck !

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      • #18
        Stick with it! Did they have a anchored line? In murky water I've seen instructors put a marked anchor line in the water. You can follow that up and down with ease. It's been awhile since I have gone diving though, so things maybe changing.

        Speaking of sky diving, I have flown stunt planes in some pretty crazy manuvers. But, I can't see myself jumping out of a perfectly running plane! Fortunately, I have never had a situation in which I had to bail. I probably would die of a heart attack! Now diving, I'm relaxed!
        Tone is like Art: Your opinion is valid. Listen, learn, have fun, draw your own conclusions.

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        • #19
          Sounds scary, Mark! Glad clear heads prevailed.

          I would love to learn to SCUBA dive. I was fairly obsessed with the concept when I was in grade school, and though I've never done it, I would love to learn.

          Then I realize that I can't afford the hobbies I have now, so adding another expensive pastime pleasure is probably not in my best interest.

          Good luck with your certification.


          - Eric
          Good Lord! The rod up that man's butt must have a rod up its butt!

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          • #20
            whatever you do, be careful bro!

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            • #21
              I was certified NAUI and PADI in thr 70's - taught in the area YMCA's.

              Scariest was a dive off Key Largo - Pennicamp state park (underwater park). We were diving a WWII cargo shipwreck on the edge of the continental shelf about 6 miles off Largo. This was sunk by a German u-boat right off Florida. There is a constant 1-knot current going over the edge of the shelf down into the deep,dark, cold water - thousands of feet - and if you're not careful you get sucked right over and down you can kiss your ass goodbye.

              Anyway, there were about 15 baracuda under the boat in the shade and these fuckers are mean- with BIG teeth. Sharks are pussies compared to these guys. I was surrounded by about 10 5-6 footers but luckily got out with no problem. Couldn't get back on the damn boat until they left.
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              • #22
                I can't swim, I'm scared to death of the water..but I still "dive" on occassion..Diver Down!!!

                I have SCUBA gear..flippers, snorkle, ..marshmallows.

                "Bill, Smoke a Bowl and Crank Van Halen I, Life is better when I do that"
                Donnie Swanstrom 01/25/06..miss ya!

                "Well, your friend would have Bell's Palsy, which is a facial paralysis, not "Balls Pelsy" like we're joking about here." Toejam's attempt at sensitivity.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by guitarsjb View Post
                  whatever you do, be careful bro!

                  I will..thanks Sis!!!
                  "Bill, Smoke a Bowl and Crank Van Halen I, Life is better when I do that"
                  Donnie Swanstrom 01/25/06..miss ya!

                  "Well, your friend would have Bell's Palsy, which is a facial paralysis, not "Balls Pelsy" like we're joking about here." Toejam's attempt at sensitivity.

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                  • #24
                    Been diving 15 years, I don't blame you and you did the right thing by surfacing. Your safety is on your instructor's shoulders - he should not have moved ahead that quickly. FWIW, most instructors I know here aren't the most responsible people of the community - caveat emptor!
                    Crime doesn't pay. Neither does lutherie...

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by RobRR View Post
                      You went scuba diving in Missouri??
                      Never heard of Lake of the Ozarks, have you? Big honkin' lake.(man-made, I believe) Beautiful area. Went there years and years ago. Sadly, I haven't been back.
                      Occupy JCF

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                      • #26
                        I'm with you Bill.....Strictly muff diving for me.

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                        • #27
                          Thanks a bunch for the comments folks, I appreciate it more than you know (except you Bill )

                          But.....Today just fucking kicked ass!!! The water was a bit clearer (not great, but about 6 feet vis), and I guess the experience from yesterday scared us enough that we either had to remember that and fear it, or kick it's ass.
                          We ended up completing our certification, AND getting some extra fun dives. We ended up diving all damned day (and yes, we're beat)
                          We learned that just like a lot of other sports, it's totally mind over matter. We had a long talk with the instructor about it today before we got in the water, and he did admit that the dive was a bit tough, but also said that we did the right shit, and that today would just get better.....he was right! The coolest thing we did today was sit on the bottom at about 40 feet, break open muscles with rocks, and feed them to the fish. Before you knew it, we had a bazillion new friends!!! They would swim right up face to face with us and beg for food! I couldn't believe that shit! We stayed down there and burned up a full tank of air just doing that!
                          The toughest thing we did today was having to hover near the bottom, remove all of our gear, and put it back on. That sucked!...but oh well.
                          We're pumped now, and have already signed up for the advanced cert and one specialty each next summer. I'll have to admit now, this is way more fun that skydiving. Just way way more fun. I think I've found a sport I will retire with!
                          My goal in life is to be the kind of asshole my wife thinks I am.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Tekky View Post
                            Never heard of Lake of the Ozarks, have you? Big honkin' lake.(man-made, I believe) Beautiful area. Went there years and years ago. Sadly, I haven't been back.
                            Todd, next time you guys head that way, give me a call. We'll bring our boat up and have a blast! We are actually diving on Table Rock (which is also a beautiful hunk of water), but the Lake of the Ozarks is within an hour from us. Just don't go there on July 4th!!!
                            My goal in life is to be the kind of asshole my wife thinks I am.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by mm2002 View Post
                              Todd, next time you guys head that way, give me a call. We'll bring our boat up and have a blast! We are actually diving on Table Rock (which is also a beautiful hunk of water), but the Lake of the Ozarks is within an hour from us. Just don't go there on July 4th!!!
                              Last time I went was over 13 years ago. My ex-fiance's father knew folks out there and we rented a cabin on the lake. We went to some place that served a big honkin' pork sandwich. Plenty of bar-type places around there. If I take Kristi that way, I'll definitely let you (Pat, and Adrian) know.
                              Occupy JCF

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                              • #30
                                That's great you both went back and got you cert's. You did the right thing.
                                You have to go to Cozumel. The best diving for the money in the world IMO. It's great down there. Drift diving it's the way to go. Plus some of the most beautiful diving anywhere. Been going for the last 10 summers.
                                Last edited by Gunner; 09-24-2007, 09:44 AM.

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