Raikkonen new world champ!!

[jwoods986]

jackson1 said everything I was going to. But since E has his own view of the facts, lets restate them:
1. Benetton/Ford was a mid-pack car when he was with them, yet he won his first two titles.
2. Ferrari WAS shit when he got there. They hadn't won a drivers title since '78 (Andretti) and they were seriously behind the McClarens and Williams when he first joined Ferrari. Yet he was still competitive, even with a clearly inferior car, and once Ferrari got the car up to par, he dominated.
3. I don't know how you quantify "pure driving skill", but I think number of pole positions would be one way. Who has the record (and countless others)? Oh yeah, Schumi!

[jwoods986]

Oh yeah, the original thread subject. Congrats to Kimi!

[Endrik]

no matter what anyone says, schumacher is the most overrated person in motorsports..... and I would make world records too with ferrari when the others are driving Volkswagen Golfs

[monk]

No, you would probably pass out after 5-6 turns

Racing is not only about the driving itself. It requires the driver to be able to communicate and work with the engineers/mechanics to improve the car and make everything running smooth. Schumacher obviously had that talent.

[shobet]

Shumchamker... oh whatever, also has a very big chin.

[Endrik]

Shumchamker... oh whatever, also has a very big chin.

[jackson1]

Thanks, monk. This is exactly the point, obviously missed by the good Endrik. If a team has something to believe in, they will succeed.

Schumacher knows who to pick out and work with. He knows the game, even when he was a newbie. He knows how to repress a team mate. He knows how to stand tallest.

He fits modern Formula 1 perfectly - with his slyness, perfected lobbyism and arrogance. Maybe he owe part of his success to Mr. Weber. I think so.

[NextInLine]

he makes em better, are you serious, he designed the engines?

Being an engineer myself, I can assure you that design = cost. And no car brand or any other company would invest money into something they are not good at

So as a driver if you win races and pull your team to a higher position, that makes it possible to design better engines

I don't think anything further needs to be said, the statistics speak for itself.. There has always been 1 or 2 great teams in F1 racings. but those teams didn't create many Schumachers because there IS someone different there